1500 Pts - Space Marine Bikes

[Agriss]

40K Army: Space Marines

Here is my 1500 Pts Biker List:

HQ

Korsarro Khan w/ Moondrakken - 205 Pts

Command Squad w/ Bikes , Champion , Company Banner , Razorback w/ TL Multi-Melta - 285 Pts

ELITES

Dreadnought w/ 2 x TL Autocannon - 125 Pts

TROOPS

Space Marine Bike Squad w/ 5 Bikes , 2 Flamers , Combi-Flamer - 160 Pts

Space Marine Bike Squad w/ 4 Bikes , 2 Melta Guns , Combi-Melta , Attack Bike w/ Multi-Melta - 195 Pts

Space Marine Bike Squad w/ 4 Bikes , 2 Melta Guns , Combi-Melta , Attack Bike w/ Multi-Melta - 195 Pts

FAST ATTACK

2 x Land Speeder w/ Heavy Bolter , Assualt Cannon - 180 Pts

Stormtalon w/ [ any of the options, i cannot pick myself] - 155/150/130 Pts

Any Improvements?

[ If i take out the dreadnought, and run the Stormtalon bare bones, i can replace the dread with a Chaplain on bike with a power fist- Is this worth doing?]

[HeOfTheRedPen]

I'd drop the Dreadnought (it doesn't really suit a bike-centric army- it's just too slow, and even if you put it in a Drop Pod it remains an easily avoidable points sink rather than an effective unit) and also replace Kor'Sarro with a regular Captain, as the Captain proves more versatile in terms of equipment and allows for use of Combat Tactics, which I believe to be most effective in a bike army due to the high quotient of fast fall-back moves present. Also, forget the Razorback on the Command Squad- it's not worth the extra investment. As for the Stormtalon, I think in this army anti-infantry is somewhat lacking (there's plenty of melta goodness in the Troops department, so anti-tank is well covered), so I would go for the Typhoon Missile Launchers or the Skyhammer Missiles over the Lascannons. Taking Power Fists on the bike sergeants may also be worth it for extra close combat punch over the combi-melta (two meltaguns and a multi-melta on the attack bike is quite enough, believe me!). Another squad of anti-infantry Land Speeders might make a good replacement for the points saved on Kor'Sarro and the dropping of the Razorback/Dreadnought. However, as long as you use the correct bike army tactics (shoot the assaulters, assault the shooters, keep mobile and play cat and mouse with your enemy's elites), then I can't see why a doctored version of this army couldn't work. You've certainly picked a niche space marine force, and I'll be interested to hear how successful it proves to be. Oh, as a final point: never take a bike Chaplain, Librarian or Master of the Forge, because, although they look tempting, the adaptability of the Captain is far more desirable in my view.
Yours,
HeOfTheRedPen

[stereynolds]

Korsarro is only good if he's escorting a cmd squad with a champion, apothecary and 3 lightning claws (so they get Furious Charge). Otherwise as said above a regular captain with a relic blade is a better investment. Be aware this is the ONLY squad in a bike army that should assault things unless you get desperate. Also the razorback can't outflank unless someone inside it has outflank.

Lose the dreadnought and the landspeeders in their current config, troops choices are fine. As you have plenty of anti tank you need to look to transport and infantry killing. I recommend 2 Landspeeders with Typhoon launcher and 2 Multi-melta/Heavy Flamer speeders.

Biker Chaplains are only good to give the re-rolls to the cmd squad so are (potentially) an expensive waste of points. Librarian biker is good for mobile Null Zone and Avenger. Biker MOTF is only good for getting a bazillion power fist attacks against a vehicle and is therefore expensive to field/isn't brilliant.

[stereynolds]

Ooops double post.