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    Official Warseer 6th Ed Starter Set Thread (Summary in first post)

    Welcome to the thread, here's a summary of the rumours concerning the set so far. Please remember these are just rumours, and thanks should go to the rumourmancers for posting them.

    Note: Unless stated otherwise, all rumours are recent.

    T-Tauri: Photos courtesy of Svanhvit of Reddit:

    Photo of the Dark Vengeance box set, with the Limited Edition Dark Angel Interrogator Chaplain pictured at the top of the right hand page:

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    Photo of Chaos Lord (Top left) Helbrute (Top right) and Chosen (The rest):

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    Photo of Dark Angels: Company Master (Top left) Librarian (Top) Limited Edition Interrogator Chaplain (Top left) and Tactical squad (The rest):

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    Photo of Dark Angels: Deathwing Terminators (Top) and Ravenwing Bikes (The rest):

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    The release date:

    Now numerous sources:
    Pre-orders go up on August 25th for release on September 1st.
    Stickmonkey:
    Starter Sets up for Pre-order August 25th. Released September 1st.

    Which means there should be photos of everything posted sometime around August 21st-22nd.
    A Birdy:
    The starter is due September 1st, staffers have a block for holidays on that weekend and the following weeks.
    One of Darnok's Birdies:
    I can confirm 100% that the Starter Set is slated for a September release
    75hastings69:
    I'm expecting the Starter Set mid September
    General info:

    gilljoy:
    The box set costs £65 and includes

    1 Dark Angels Company Master
    1 Dark Angels Librarian
    5 Deathwing Terminators
    10 Dark Angel Tactical Marines
    3 Ravenwing Bikes
    1 Interrogator-Chaplain(Only while supplies last of Dark Vengeance Box Set)
    1 Chaos Lord
    6 Chosen
    1 Helbrute
    20 Chaos Cultists
    48p How To Play Booklet
    1 Reference Sheet
    168p Rulebook
    1 Flamer Template
    1 Small Blast Marker
    1 Large Blast Marker
    1 Dice Pack
    2 Range Rulers
    Harry:
    There is a special (Limited run) edition of the Starter Set.
    Erazmus_M_Wattle
    The Dark Angels Chaplain is in the limited edition box.
    Erazmus_M_Wattle
    As far as I know the limited edition box is not too much more expensive than the regular set. I also think the limited box will be released first and the regular box later. But don't take that as an unshakeable rumour. I'm not 100% sure on it. It's just been suggested to me that it might be the case.
    Beasts of War:
    The box set is named Dark Vengeance.
    Beasts of War:
    The box will contain a smaller version of the 40k Rulebook.
    Beasts of War:
    There will be templates included in the box, and a new How to Play Dark Vengeance booklet, that allows you to jump right into the action.
    75hastings69:
    The 6th ed Starter Set will be Dark Angels vs Chaos
    Kaelarr:
    I can tell you one thing, the models are totally awesome
    Tallarn, from Astronomican, on 30 September 2011:
    There will be two versions of the starter set for the first time. Rather than the box containing two armies each will have one, so Dark Angels versions and a Traitor version. Each will have a selection of figures, but the extra space in the box will focus on scenery. So there will be a small Dark Angels force with a Dark Angels specific piece of scenery in one box, and a small Traitor force and Chaos specific scenery in the other.
    The Chaos contents:

    Beasts of War:
    The Chaos Cultists consist of 2 units of 10 Chaos Cultist models, one unit armed with Auto-guns (with a Shotgun & CC weapon for the leader and a Heavy Stubber support trooper) and the other unit with Auto-pistol & CC weapon (with 2 CC weapons for the leader and a Flamer support model).

    The Chaos Cultists are bound in rags, with metal half-masks and weapons that suit the cobbled-together, improvised look that you expect from the dregs of Chaos.
    Beasts of War:
    There are 6 Chosen…elite Chaos Space Marines, armed with a variety of Power Weapons (A Maul on the Sergeant, and a Power Fist, a Chain Axe and a set of Lightning Claws by the look of thing interspersed on the other models by the looks of things). The remaining Chosen are armed with Boltguns.
    Beasts of War:
    The Chaos Lord is armed with a Power Sword & Plasma Pistol. His pose is a bit static, but that is only in comparison to the much more animated Chosen.
    Beasts of War:
    There is also the massive Helbrute model, which comes equipped with a Multi-Melta and a Power Fist. It seems that this isn’t a Dreadnought replacement, but is in fact a huge suit of specialist armour crewed by a Chaos Marine (or more likely a Champion). Actually, the model resembles a huge suit of Terminator Armour with lots of cool Chaos gribbly bits.
    Tokugawa:
    The unit entry has been leaked. Just saw it quoted on chinese forums.

    Chaos part:
    Lord (In Power Armor)
    Chaos Dreadnought (With Twin Linked Melta and DCCW)
    Chosen (6 strong, with Power Maul, Power Fist and Lightning Claw)
    Cultists (20 strong, half with close combat weapon and pistol, the other half with assault rifle)
    75hastings69:
    The Chaos forces are made up of CSM Chosen, as well as Cultists/Traitors and a funky Chaos Dreadnought.... amongst others
    MajorWesJanson:
    Starter news I have heard from several places now:

    Chaos:
    Sorcerer
    Chosen
    CSM squad?
    Cultists
    Posessed?
    Dreadnought?

    Dreadnought seems likely. CSM squad may be referring to the Chosen, or may not. Posessed will have to see.
    Kaelarr:
    The Chaos forces are a CSM Sorcerer, a unit of Marines, a unit of Possessed and a unit of Cultists
    Kaelarr:
    I must make a retraction - There is a Chaos dread in the starter set, but it is not the multipart plastic kit, that will be released separately. Sorry, there were some crossed wires in my info...
    The Dark Angel contents:

    B]Beasts of War:[/B]
    The Tactical Marine squad of 10 models comes with the ordinary Space Marine grunts sporting a Boltguns, but the squad also has a Plasma Gunner and a Heavy Plasma Cannon model, with a Plasma Pistol and Chainsword Sergeant.

    The Tactical Squad also has a mixture of poses, this time around. Some of the Bolter-totting Marines are holding their ubiquitous weapon at jaunty angles to make the squad look a bit more animated… and it works too… good job GW!
    Beasts of War:
    Each of the 5 strong Space Marine Terminator squad is armed with a Stormbolter and Power Fist, with a Power Sword instead of a Power Fist on the Sergeant. However, you do get an Assault Cannon and a Chainfist option… and true to previous form… the models now come in a variety of more dynamic poses with the squad Sergeant even sporting Wings.
    Beasts of War:
    The unit of 3 Space Marine (or Ravenwing) Bikers consists of a Sergeant, one Biker sporting a Bolt Pistol and Chainsword, and the third Biker packing a Plasma Gun. The models look similar to previous Ravenwing Bikers (With that big wing banner on the back) and are probably the least inspiring out of the box.
    Beasts of War:
    There will be 3 Dark Angel characters in the box:

    A Dark Angels Company Master named Balthasar, armed with a Power Sword.

    A Dark Angels Librarian equipped with a Force Sword.

    And a limited edition Interrogator Chaplain, with an embellished robe and Power Armour including smoking exhaust details, possibly making this the most ostentatious model in the box!
    Erazmus_M_Wattle
    The Dark Angels Chaplain is in the limited edition box.
    Tokugawa:
    The unit entry has been leaked. Just saw it quoted on chinese forums.

    Dark Angel part:

    Captain Balthasar(In Power Armor, not in Terminator Armour)
    Librarian (In Power Armor)
    Deathwing Squad (5 strong, with Storm Bolters, no Stormshields)
    Tactical Sqaud (10 strong, with 1 Plasma Cannon and 1 Plasma Gun)
    Ravenwing Squad (3 Bikes)
    Starchild:
    The Dark Angels will be as stated: Deathwing Master, Deathwing squad, Ravenwing Bike squadron (Not Jetbikes), and a Tactical squad.
    Kaelarr:
    The Dark Angels are a Terminator Captain, a unit of Deathwing, a unit of Ravenwing and a unit of Marines.
    MajorWesJanson:
    Starter news I have heard from several places now:

    Dark Angels:
    Terminator Captain
    5 Deathwing
    Tactical Squad
    Ravenwing bikes (3 likely)
    Stickmonkey:
    The Dark Angel Tactical squad are not the Assault on Black Reach marines, these are new sculpts and there is Dark Angel iconography on them.
    Stickmonkey:
    One bit I'm really not certain on is this bit, but I've had some info passed on that the Dark Angel Tactical squad includes a Sergeant with Combi Weapon and Power Sword, 7 Bolter marines, 1 with Meltagun, and 1 with Plasma Cannon. I'd frankly be surprised if this is the load out though, and it wasn't the more generic Flamer and Missile Launcher.

    There you go, if you have any rumours to add, whether you want to remain anonymous or not, please just send me a PM
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    Re: Official Warseer 6th Ed Starter Set Thread (Summary in first post)

    Thanks for the infos! Seems a nice way to start a Dark Angels army
    Marines are most likely a tactical squad.
    Do you know if the DA minis will wear the Dark Angels sign on them or a bit a generic sign like they did with the tactical squad, wearing the regular Tactical sign on right shoulder
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    My understanding was that there was some disagreement as to exactly what the "unit of Ravenwing" would be. Wasn't there some indication that it would be jetbikes? or was that just wishlisting?

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    Thanks for the info man! Sounds like an awesome set to start Chaos or Dark Angels to be honest; I can't wait to see the models!


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    There will be no Dark Angel jetbikes in the starter box! This was just a wish that got out of control.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starchild View Post
    There will be no Dark Angel jetbikes in the starter box! This was just a wish that got out of control.
    Agreed. Even in the unlikely event that Dark Angels get a jetbike unit in their next book, it would be a huge mistake on GW's part to make that unit available through the starter set. As a separate 3-man box set, it would sell huge amounts.

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    The thing is though, even if indeed it will be a new unit (not saying it is!) it would be a fairly large kit, only one to a box. Space Marine jetbikes aren't little! Look at Sammael's bike for a minimum size (but again, I'm quite sure his will remain the only one left in the galaxy.)


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    Well, bloodcrushers were initially a single box kit in metal as well, and then became 3 to a box plastic. Same with Thunderwolves. So I could see them being a 3 to box plastic kit in the same vein. But, like you, I don't think it will ever happen. Either way, I'm fairly certain that it will merely be 3 normal Ravenwing bikes in the boxset

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    Hastings has assured us repeatedly that the starter contains a dread. I'd update the first post

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    Re: Official Warseer 6th Ed Starter Set Thread (Summary in first post)

    Thanks for the info and for starting a starter-set-thread . Until now the info on the starter set was spread out on several threads and cumbersome to follow. I play both DA and CSM and will probably buy more than just one starter box.

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    I can see some people using the tactical and deathwing squads in addition to the CSM do start a nice Word Bearers army

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    Re: Official Warseer 6th Ed Starter Set Thread (Summary in first post)

    Quote Originally Posted by Starchild View Post
    The thing is though, even if indeed it will be a new unit (not saying it is!) it would be a fairly large kit, only one to a box. Space Marine jetbikes aren't little! Look at Sammael's bike for a minimum size (but again, I'm quite sure his will remain the only one left in the galaxy.)
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    Any info on whether the chaos forces will be legion specific or generic?
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    This box will be so awesome for starting a Fallen army.

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    This box will be so awesome for starting a Fallen army.
    Agreed

    A small DA and a small CSM force, or one nice sized Fallen themed army
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    Re: Official Warseer 6th Ed Starter Set Thread (Summary in first post)

    But which codex would you use for that Fallen army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian Weaver View Post
    But which codex would you use for that Fallen army?
    Well they are chaos marines, so the CSM codex obviously. But the beauty of being Fallen is that if you like the Dark Angels book more than the Chaos book whenever that comes out you could just switch without anyone making a big deal out of it. Probably.

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    Another vote of thanks for seperating this into a distinct thread. I'm really not too fussed about the MRB but very, very excited about the potential Chaos army I can begin around this new set.

    The big question for me at the moment is what the 'Limited Edition Starter Set' will contain...just different coloured templates or a backpack and case to carry the army...

    To the Fallen thing you could use the DA codex for Ravenwing/Deathwing forces or Chaos for daemon /cultist heavy forces. If the models are suitably converted and painted I would find it quite acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elios Harg View Post
    Agreed. Even in the unlikely event that Dark Angels get a jetbike unit in their next book, it would be a huge mistake on GW's part to make that unit available through the starter set. As a separate 3-man box set, it would sell huge amounts.
    The same could be said for deff coptas, but we know how that went. Plenty of people bought the starter set just to get the new plastic coptas. The same would go for jet bikes in a starter set. $40 vs $100, GW likes the larger number. I'm not saying that jet bikes will be in the box, just that your post is a weak argument to use for them to not be in the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiq View Post
    Any info on whether the chaos forces will be legion specific or generic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Badruk View Post
    Do you know if the DA minis will wear the Dark Angels sign on them or a bit a generic sign like they did with the tactical squad, wearing the regular Tactical sign on right shoulder
    All the info I've accrued off our friendly rumourmancers I've put in the first post, so I'm none the wiser in regards to your inquiries

    Quote Originally Posted by FerociousBeast View Post
    Hastings has assured us repeatedly that the starter contains a dread. I'd update the first post
    I've just collected all the rumours I could get hold of and put them together, it's up to other people to make their own decisions about them

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