Gargant Dimensions

[AlphariusOmegon20]

I did search here on the site and I couldn't find any consistent answers to my question, so here goes.

I want to build a 40K scale Gargant of some form, but I can not find any consistent answers on the dimensions of such. Does anyone know the dimensions of a gargant, specifically in relation to an Imperial Warhound AND the current Stompa? Height is obviously the most important measurement I need, but circumference would also be helpful, though I can extrapolate the circumference from the height ( I'd prefer the dimensions of a Great Gargant personally. If anyone has the old Armorcast Great Gargant, I'd appreciate those dimensions.)

Average Weapons loadout would also be helpful.

[Beppo1234]

There isn't a consistent size. Being Orky, it's built to whatever size they want. I'd get the basic measurements of the Stompa, and flip through some of the Epic models, then you can get a vague idea of how big you want to go.

[AndrewGPaul]

A Stompa is a small Gargant*, so the only real rule is "bigger than a stompa". Going by the old 1st edition Epic minis, the bottom of a Great Gargant's skirt was slightly larger in diameter than the width of a Reaver's "at ease" stance.

*by the standards of Epic, the current plastic Stompa for 40K is closer in concept to the Mekboy Gargant, the smallest of the "true" Gargants.

[The Decayed]

Aren't Gargants randomly built out of scrap like every other Ork vehicle?
If I were to build one, I'd just decide on the amount of structurepoints I wanted it to have, then use a stompa for reference to scale it up.
( stompa is 3 structure points, so a gargant "6 points big" would be about twice as bulky as a stompa, 9 structurepoints 3 times bulkier, etc..)
Hope that made sense.

[Dylius]

As the others said it's basically bigger than a stompa. The Decayed has quite a good idea, though.

[AlphariusOmegon20]

If I were to build one, I'd just decide on the amount of structurepoints I wanted it to have, then use a stompa for reference to scale it up.
( stompa is 3 structure points, so a gargant "6 points big" would be about twice as bulky as a stompa, 9 structurepoints 3 times bulkier, etc..)
Hope that made sense.

Hmmm, hadn't thought of it that way, TBH.

So you're saying if a Stompa has a 7" lower diameter and a height of 8", for argument's sake, then make a "10 point" Gargant with a 21" lower diameter and a height of 24"?

Interesting thought.

[Gaf-Naz]

Here's a chart by Kr00zA from Da Waaagh that may help.

There's a discussion on gargant sizes in this thread.

Apparently, the Armourcast Great Gargant is 13.5" tall.

Now get mekkin'!

[MajorWesJanson]

I would make it a little narrower, personally, mainly so it can be used on the table. Say 16" at the base, about 20" to the shoulder, then the head and feet to add height.

[Grimbad]

Hmmm, hadn't thought of it that way, TBH.

So you're saying if a Stompa has a 7" lower diameter and a height of 8", for argument's sake, then make a "10 point" Gargant with a 21" lower diameter and a height of 24"?

Interesting thought.

Three times bulkier is not three times each linear dimension.
Three times bulkier would be the volume of three stompas, not of a cube three stompas each side.

[AlphariusOmegon20]

Three times bulkier is not three times each linear dimension.
Three times bulkier would be the volume of three stompas, not of a cube three stompas each side.

Ugh, you're getting into Algebra, not my strong suit.

Please translate if you can to simple English for someone that failed algebra twice.

[MajorWesJanson]

If you double the height, width and depth of a stompa, you end up with 8 times the volume.

If you want something that is three times the volume of the stompa, you need to make it about 1.5 times the length, width, and depth of the stompa, so about 12" at the base and height. That should work out well to about 9-10 structure point equivalents and some power fields.

[madd0ct0r]

fazam!

[Cheeslord]

Regarding weapons loadout, an Epic Slasher gargant had a Gutbuster cannon, chainfist type things and some sort of heavy autocannon. The Great gargant had the same Gutbuster, and two huge gatling blasters for arms, with optional extra gun turrets on its shoulders and head.

When Titan Legions got released for Epic there was also a Mega Gargant introduced that was just a bit smaller than an Imperator titan, and lost the gutbuster in favour of a large array of heavy cannons on its "belly", and a massive number of assorted weapons strapped on its arms and shoulders (including IIRC a lifta-droppa, death ray, missiles and a wierdboy in a tower who shot out lightening.)

Obviously scaling up for 40k it would need either much more than that, or for those weapons to be massively powerful. Stompas didn't have a belly gun, so the gargant should have something massive and new, that can shoot multiple types of ammunition (like the old Gutbuster cannons could), maybe with a D strength option, and an option that shoots in a straight line through multiple targets (like the old "ball" rounds from epic).

Structure points wise, i would estimate:

Slasha: 7
Great Gargant: 10
Mega Gargant: 15