5th Edition Psychic powers in 6th.

[Latro_]

More here:
http://imgur.com/a/Fbh2R

All kicking off in the 6th ed discussion thread:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...ussion-thread/

[mercury14]

I imagine the way this is going to work will be that any race with access to a certain type of psychic power (ie telepathy) will get to buy cards with points if they choose. Which means we're going to see a lot of armies sharing powers, blah. As an Eldar player I lament the fact that our once-wonderful powers are shared among so many other armies and have become commonplace.

Thanks for that link, Latro_. So it looks like quite a few races don't get any of the powers (including Orks, who do have psykers whereas Tyrranids, whose psykers I would consider to be even more unusual than Orks, do - or are they planning on removing wierdboys in the next Ork codex??)

I imagine weirdboys will keep playing as they currently do.

[BooTMGSG]

http://imgur.com/a/P1ePF

Hats off BooTMGSG, hats off.

Thanks for the link,
Supprised that Orks didn't have any Psychic power, I suspect that they will have a Waaaugh!!!!! lore, rather than have no wierdboy. (that or be a standard weapon, with hilarius missfire results.)
Oddly the Grey knights aren't the most proficient Psychic marine force. They only get three out of five, along side Choas marines and Space wolves. Vanilla marines, Blood angels and Dark angels get four out of five.

Eldar get Divination and telepathy, does this mean that they will lose Eldritch Storm as it doesn't really fit either catagory?

[mercury14]

I don't see why people are wondering if 6e will swoop into codexes and remove specific powers. To me all it looks like is adding content.

[Haravikk]

Maybe codex psychic powers will be swappable in the same way as signature powers? i.e - all psykers (or at least FAQed ones) will gain access to the new psychic "lores", but instead of swapping for the signature power of that "lore" they may swap for any existing power available to them?

[BooTMGSG]

Oh I expect everythig to be shaken up, we will lose some things and gain some more, such is the nature of change.
The lose of Eldrich storm, will be no biggie as I rarely use it, but its been their since I started playing in 2E, it would be sad to see it dissapear, unless... through the power of precognition, they Psyker can predict the moment a storm will break incorporating int the armies battle plan. Their precognition guides their people through the storm, with the enemy gets torn to shreds.
Really I'm just killing time speculating, until I have my hands on the nice new shiney book.

[Chem-Dog]

http://imgur.com/a/P1ePF

Hats off BooTMGSG, hats off.

Yes, yes indeed, well done BooTMGSG

Eldar get Divination and telepathy, does this mean that they will lose Eldritch Storm as it doesn't really fit either catagory?

With some races getting none of the powers, like Orks. I think there's still room for codex specific psychic abilities, either as dedicated "decks" or standalone innate powers that are used in conjunction with these psychic disciplines.


Oh, and cheers for the link Latro

[Eumerin]

Eldar get Divination and telepathy, does this mean that they will lose Eldritch Storm as it doesn't really fit either catagory?

I suspect that the new powers set-up will be treated somewhat similar to WFB. For instance, in WFB, Dark Elves get access to several of the lores found in the rulebook. But they also get access to their own unique lore, Dark Magic. Similarly, I suspect that, for instance, the Eldar will get access to the "common" Divination and Telepathy powers, but also have access to other abilities that are more unique and specific to their race. Eldritch Storm would fall into the category of the latter.

[MajorWesJanson]

I suspect that the new powers set-up will be treated somewhat similar to WFB. For instance, in WFB, Dark Elves get access to several of the lores found in the rulebook. But they also get access to their own unique lore, Dark Magic. Similarly, I suspect that, for instance, the Eldar will get access to the "common" Divination and Telepathy powers, but also have access to other abilities that are more unique and specific to their race. Eldritch Storm would fall into the category of the latter.

I agree. Chaos Marines/Daemons seem likely to get some more disciplines to cover Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh. Orks may get something to cover Gork and Mork. Eldar may have powers dedicated to say Khaine, Isha, Cegorach, and the other Eldar gods that are left. Sisters of Battle may get a Faith discipline.

the precedent set by Fantasy is that some races will rely more on the general BRB lores, while others will add their own. Each codex will likely list what lores they can use as well.

[TheDoctor]

Although it has been stated in the 2012 thread, I will state it here too. Apparently you can choose to use either your codex powers OR the new powers. Means my Eldar will most likely be using the good ol standard fortune, guide, and doom; while my Dark Angels will take the BRB powers. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[bobafett_h]

All of the details I've seen definitely hint at using Codex OR Card powers.
Seems to be that both Card and Codex powers cannot be taken on the one model.
The cards aren't replacing race specific powers in their books, just adding extra options for psychic units.

I am still confused as to why Eldar won't have access to the Telekinesis set of cards though.

[Balerion]

Although it has been stated in the 2012 thread, I will state it here too. Apparently you can choose to use either your codex powers OR the new powers. Means my Eldar will most likely be using the good ol standard fortune, guide, and doom; while my Dark Angels will take the BRB powers. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Not every single time! In a few months they'll have access to a ridiculously overpowered Leomancy deck.

[TheDoctor]

Not every single time! In a few months they'll have access to a ridiculously overpowered Leomancy deck.

*facepalm*

I will also be looking forward to angelicus monkfistius, who is a super-charged watcher in the dark, and has personally captured OVER 9000 fallen, mostly by going into the warp and taking the fallen from the ruinous powers themselves.

[althathir]

I suspect that the new powers set-up will be treated somewhat similar to WFB. For instance, in WFB, Dark Elves get access to several of the lores found in the rulebook. But they also get access to their own unique lore, Dark Magic. Similarly, I suspect that, for instance, the Eldar will get access to the "common" Divination and Telepathy powers, but also have access to other abilities that are more unique and specific to their race. Eldritch Storm would fall into the category of the latter.

This... I actually think they're trying to make psychic powers more balanced, and having a large number of powers in the core edition makes its a bit easier, while still leaving room for the traditional psycher fractions to have it be a strength.

[Haunter!]

*facepalm*

I will also be looking forward to angelicus monkfistius, who is a super-charged watcher in the dark, and has personally captured OVER 9000 fallen, mostly by going into the warp and taking the fallen from the ruinous powers themselves.

Looks like you've got most of the new codex's fluff out of the way already, Mr. Ward!