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    Daemon allies in 6th?

    If you can Do 2 force org charts Daemonzilla might be back with a vengeance.

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    I think there's also something to be said for putting Epidemius in with some Nurgle friends. Plague Marines have a lot to gain from AP2 Bolters, while you should get the tally up nice and quickly with 4+ Daemon Princes running about. Throw in the new '6+ to hit' with those Wings and you're in the money!
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    You can be damn sure that'll only happen in apocalypse.
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Depends on how this is implemented, if at all. I have heard Force Org charts are still in, but whether it is Force org or percentages, I'm betting that the allies have to follow it. So no 6+ heavy support choices running around, or no spending 60% of your points on Heavies/Rares/Whatever they are called.

    And Epidemus as an ally... heh... heh... heh...

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    From my understanding the allies system is meant for team games. Not for one player to take two armies into one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rated_lexxx View Post
    From my understanding the allies system is meant for team games. Not for one player to take two armies into one
    Based on what I have heard, I would be prepared to be surprised

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

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    Based on what I have heard, I would be prepared to be surprised
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimtuff View Post
    Indeed. GK Paladins with Fortune. That is all.

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    Fortune specifies that it only works on Eldar units.
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    That was just bad wording to stir up the pot. Team games or special missions only.

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexiest_hero View Post
    That was just bad wording to stir up the pot. Team games or special missions only.
    Guess we will have to wait and see.

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Daemon allies? More like CSM allies.

    Give my Fatecrusher some Lash Princes and Melta Plague Marines and call it a day. Or hell, just a Termicide squad.

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ3 View Post
    Daemon allies? More like CSM allies.

    Give my Fatecrusher some Lash Princes and Melta Plague Marines and call it a day. Or hell, just a Termicide squad.

    Or Oblits. Dear lord, Oblits. Yes.
    Well, we will need something to compensate for the fact that we can no longer beat terminators in close combat (if Khorne daemons now get AP3 on their swords instead of ignoring all armour saves, our primary means of dealing with terminators goes out the window)

    I expect some wishy washy "it's all optional just play the game how you feel" wording in the book...

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeslord View Post
    Well, we will need something to compensate for the fact that we can no longer beat terminators in close combat (if Khorne daemons now get AP3 on their swords instead of ignoring all armour saves, our primary means of dealing with terminators goes out the window)

    I expect some wishy washy "it's all optional just play the game how you feel" wording in the book...

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    My understanding of how allies works isn't that you get to use 2 FOC charts.

    It's more like the FOC Chart now works like a tree, with certain branches opening up other branches on the tree.

    So if you take certain things they will allow you to take certain other things from another allied Codex.

    This doesn't mean you can cherry pick the best bits from other Codices, more like you may be able to take 1 troops choice for a certain amount of troops choices from the parent list.

    I am guessing it's like the old Witch Hunters / SoB / Guard / Marine allies in the old Daemon Hunters Codex.

    And I have heard mixed rumours regarding whether or not it's just for team games or not, so you might be able to use allies in standard games.

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Even if it says " for team games", it's not like you need to change any rules to simply play a large game with only one player per side.

    Assuming both players agree to it, of course.

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    I would like to add Fateweaver to my Thousand Sons army.
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vedar View Post
    If you can Do 2 force org charts Daemonzilla might be back with a vengeance.

    CSM..

    Daemon PrinceX2
    CSM Squad+RhinoX2
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    Daemons...

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    PlaguebearersX2
    Daemon PrinceX3

    I can trump this....
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    That's three more MC's than your Daemonzilla force!

    Though I dread to think what the Tyranids could do, quad Tyrand + Tervigon Spam
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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    slapping down 4 greater daemons and 6 daemonprinces with 20 bloodletters is why this rumor needs to be put down. Most of it is optional/ campaign rules team games and fun stuff. It's not for standard 40k,

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    Re: Daemon allies in 6th?

    Err... we all know that the allies game in WD is one player per side right?

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