pre heresy world eaters...slightly competitive

[Nasha]

40K Army: Space Marines

Ok so going to a 1250point tournie in october and as im doin a pre heresy world eaters army at the mo i wanna take them
Now i want it to be fluffy but at least a bit competitivr too so got two lists, one from codex blood angels and one from chaos marines

Blood angels list

Captain in terminator armour with pair of lightning claws

Priest with terminator armour
Priest with power weapon
Priest with power weapon

7 assault terminators with 3 thunder hammers

9 assault marines with power weapon hand flamer and flamer
Rhino

9 assault marines with power weapin flamer and hand flamer
Rhino

5 devastators with missile launchers

Chaos codex
Lord with terminator armour mark of khorne and daemon weapon
7 terminators with mark of khorne and bout 50 points of random combat weapons

10 beserkers with champion n power weapin
Rhino

10 beserkers with power weapon n champ
Rhino

Havocs with meltas
Rhino

Which one is better and what can be done to make them better but still fluffy

[Nasha]

Noone got any pointers...now i know its after the nex ruoes are out but come on guys

[kendowned]

i dont know enough about blood angels to comment on that list the chaos list looks fun but i dont know how competitive it will be keeping to a world eaters theme, im not sure what i would do defo fit in powerfists instead of power weapons on ther skull champs, possibly take chosen instead of havocs the only problem is that these are your only anti tank and you have no long range which korne dont take but it will still hurt your chances, you might want to take another squad of chosen with melta and drop some terminators. and you have to many points in your one uinit of termies and lord walking across the bord or deep stiking which can be risky i would drop some of them. chaos lords with deamon hammers are super fun but also super unreliable im not great with fluff but mabie take khárn the betrayer he is awsome and i cant see any better options without cheesing out with lash princes and oblitorators.

[Nasha]

Im goin for a small force still loyal to the emperor at the early stages of the actual heresy...as in once the traitors had played their hand

Ok so revised blood angel codex list is

Captain with power weapon

3 priests with power weapons n combi meltas

2 9 man assault squads with power fist hand flamer and melta in drop pod
8 man assault squad with power fist hand flamer and melta in drop pod

2 5 man devastator squads with missile launchers......

So what do you all think of that

[Mr Zoat]

Better than either of the origional lists, and well done for remembering that a pre-heresy formation wouldn't have had jump packs. You won't be able to claim your own objectives but I don't think that World Eaters would be too worried about that. I'd probably skip the hand flamers for something else, maybe an inferno pistol?

[Nasha]

They did have jump packs but as my lamenters army is a DOA list i didnt want the same tactics.
Yeah im worried bout my objective thats why the devs will be hangin back to contest it. The only thing bout the inferno pistols is melta weapons were quite rare at the time so although ive put them in my squads im not happy bout doin so lol but need some anti tank. The hand flamers are for aesthetics n fluffiness only. I was wonderin bout droppin a dev squad n puttin a dread in pod in instead but then ive got even pods n theat simply doesnt work...any other pointers would be helpful folks

Cheers

[Mr Zoat]

I misremembered the 3rd edition Chaos Codex. I thought that they formed a seperate division within the Legion when they were actually just an elite formation. They would still be better represented by Veterans of some description.
Not putting anything on objecties is certainly very World Eatery but I would be concerned that other armies would simply be able to outpace your asault troops.

[Nasha]

Hmm...see im tempted to drop the priests power weapons n take rhinos instead of pods
That way i can ferry my devs around if need be as well...any other ideas would be helpful as well as ideas for expanding the army to 2000points

[Perth]

I'd drop everything from the Priests entirely. Being an independent character, as soon as they hit combat they are going to be focused (remember they have to charge in first), and they WILL die. You'll want to make losing them as painless as possible.

World Eater invasions were drop pod based IIRC, so I'd reformat your squads to take advantage of the round up of drop pod assault. 5 or 7 pods is probably ideal, remember you can buy pods for the devastators and drop them empty to let a pod of assault marines land first turn.

[Nasha]

So thats obviously if i up it to 2000 points as at 1250 i cant get anywhere near that amount into the list