All Terminator Deathwing/GK hybrid for 6th-1500

[Perth]

40K Army: Space Marines

Finally the upcoming allies rule will give me a chance to use more of the Tactical Terminator models I have laying around, to get the most out of them I plan on using them as GK terminators with psybolt ammo.


Belial: TH/SS, Apothecary -160
GK Librarian - 150
3x 5 Deathwing Terminators: TH/SS, CML - 235 (705)
10 GK Terminators: 2x Psycannons, Psybolt ammo - 470

Total: 1485

Standard Deathwing strategy, create a zone of denial on the mid objective with mine as close to it as possible, bunker down and dare them to try and take it.

So I've got 15 points to play around with, maybe a servo skull and a pair of psychic powers? Any suggestions or comments are most welcome.

[nSnAre]

Flyers are going to be hard to deal with in 6th ed from what the rumors are saying. I'm expecting necron players to spam their doom scythes and they can easily fit 3 in 1500pts which could put the hurt on your army. You can no longer charge a flyer unless the flyer is immobilized or lands and you shoot them at BS1 unless your guys have the "sky fire"? special rule in which case they shoot at their normal BS. I'm going to assume that everyone else (bar nids) will have a flyer in their new codex.

Other than that, I think the list is solid.

[Clarkson]

Flyers are going to be hard to deal with in 6th ed from what the rumors are saying. I'm expecting necron players to spam their doom scythes and they can easily fit 3 in 1500pts which could put the hurt on your army. You can no longer charge a flyer unless the flyer is immobilized or lands and you shoot them at BS1 unless your guys have the "sky fire"? special rule in which case they shoot at their normal BS. I'm going to assume that everyone else (bar nids) will have a flyer in their new codex.

Other than that, I think the list is solid.

cat fit more than 3 scythes in 1500pts.. the tesla may not be a big worry.. but pump enough shots into them, they will be.. specially with stormlord dropping thunder on you.

[Perth]

Flyers are a big unknown, I've heard a rumor that blast weapons can hit flyers at normal BS, but I don't know the status of that.

[Boreal]

Finally the upcoming allies rule will give me a chance to use more of the Tactical Terminator models I have laying around, to get the most out of them I plan on using them as GK terminators with psybolt ammo.


Belial: TH/SS, Apothecary -160
GK Librarian - 150
3x 5 Deathwing Terminators: TH/SS, CML - 235 (705)
10 GK Terminators: 2x Psycannons, Psybolt ammo - 470

Total: 1485

Standard Deathwing strategy, create a zone of denial on the mid objective with mine as close to it as possible, bunker down and dare them to try and take it.

So I've got 15 points to play around with, maybe a servo skull and a pair of psychic powers? Any suggestions or comments are most welcome.

Ooooooh, likey a lot I play and love Deathwing and have always loved Grey Knights as well, maybe I'll give your list a whirl. The guys above may have a point about the flyers being problematic - here's hoping the new DA Codex gives our cyclone wielding termies the Skyfire rule . How much (pts) and how effective is Psybolt ammo? I only ask because your alternative might be the Deathwing banner instead, those extra thunder hammer swings might make the difference against a horde army.

[Chief Librarian Zypher]

ok here is one MAJOR flaw in your DW/GK list. Reserve Count. Your DW is fine, as it says in the DW entry that they MUST deep strike. there is nothing under the GK section for librarian or GK termies that says they MUST deep strike, so that leaves you with 2 in reserve and 0 on the table.

as it states in the first paragraph that you have to have 1/2 of your available forces on the table, and that anything that MUST arrive from reserve does not count against your reserve count, then you gotta start with either/or libby or gk termies on the table. it sucks, but ya thats RAW nowadays

[Perth]

Deathwing doesn't have to deepstrike. They have the option to deploy via Deathwing Assault for a first turn DS, but by no means HAVE to.

[dude.sweet101@yahoo.co.uk]

its better not to ds them/too risky

[Boreal]

its better not to ds them/too risky

This is true, I DS'd my TH/SS squad with Belial attached recently and watched them all die in an accident - only made more palatable when in the same turn my bro's deep-striking Autarch also died in an accident Needless to say our battle plans changed quite dramatically