Im curious statistically is it better to VEctor Strike a unit of marines and then shoot them with 1 set of brainleech devourers or just shoot them with 2 sets ? Considering you might only get 2 hits with d3+1
Im curious statistically is it better to VEctor Strike a unit of marines and then shoot them with 1 set of brainleech devourers or just shoot them with 2 sets ? Considering you might only get 2 hits with d3+1
Do cover saves benefit against vector strikes and on what page is this ruling?
Ok so I had my first game of 6th with my nids. The combination of no grenades and shooting at charges is so harsh. My stuff get shot up all the way to the enemy, then I got shot some more and get hit on the head before I can even have the chance to hurt something with my gaunts... and with no way of negating saves and FNP, I didn't even score a wound on a tactical squad.
How do you guys like... do anything now? Whatever I try, the opponent just gets so many advantages from just sitting behind walls it isn't funny.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming like the other people in his car.
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With gaunts i always take it that they will die so i usually take a large unit of at least 20 with a tox sac adrenal gland tervi coming up behind for support and added gaunt units. I don't have trouble with tac squads as their only i4 so my gaunts should strike simultaneously.
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They only strike simultaneously if they don't charge through cover, which doesn't happen against good opponents.Originally Posted by Nicho
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I shoot them with 72 synched brainleech-shots a turn.
That means, I don't care about cover, they usually assault me, just to stop the pain, and then I mop up.
Seriously, I find lots of carnifexes the answer to so many of my problems these days ...
Depends a lot on what kind of terrain setup procedure you're using.
I'm thinking of going pure devourers. Hive tyrant and carnies with lots of gaunts. Probably some thropes for anti tank.
I made a rough list with 96 terms. Hive tyrant with old and and 2 carnies. With 2 thropes. (Not seeing that much armour around here. )
That many str 4 shots with some rerolling ones to hit should put hurt on a lot of things.
True but you should have enough gaunts in a unit that it doesnt matter. A tac squad puts out what 12 attacks? when charged? Thats not enough to wipe out a large unit of gaunts in one turn and the way i play there'd be another unit of gaunts or something nastier ready to assault next turn too :-)
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Pretty much this, the only thing not hidden in terrain was the ubber assaulty death company that can take on nearly everything in my army (seriously 5 attacks each?!?!?!), some tanks and the freaking plane that needs lottery winning odds to even get a scratch.
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Hey guys,
Been trying to thought-craft an answer to flyers from the nid dex. Fortifications are underwhelming and the Harpy can't target flyers with its blast weapons, which leaves me with Hive Guard, MC Devourer spam and Objuration Mechanicum. Hive Guard aren't bad since they ignore jink saves, but Vs AV 12 they're only penetrating 1/3 of the time and scoring destroyed results 1/6 and hitting on 6's besides. MC Devourer spam has the same issues, but only glances on a 6 and Ob Mech is random so you might not get many instances of it in the army.
Ideas?
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From my few games I've found Objuration Mechanicum be enough on it's own, but I'm playing a Psker heavy list (Swarmy, Tyrant, 3 Zoans, 2 Tervs and 2 Broodlords). The combination of rerolls to 6's and haywire means they just don't scare me that much after the first turn of shooting. That said I've not gone against Doom Scyths yet, so that might change my tune.
The other option is a flyrant. It's ability to shoot in any direction means it's quite easy to get rear shots with those 2 twin devours, which should quickly down any flier. The the hard part becomes keeping it alive! Let alone the points cost.
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From my few games I've found Objuration Mechanicum be enough on it's own, but I'm playing a Psker heavy list (Swarmy, Tyrant, 3 Zoans, 2 Tervs and 2 Broodlords). The combination of rerolls to 6's and haywire means they just don't scare me that much after the first turn of shooting. That said I've not gone against Doom Scyths yet, so that might change my tune.
The other option is a flyrant. It's ability to shoot in any direction means it's quite easy to get rear shots with those 2 twin devours, which should quickly down any flier. The the hard part becomes keeping it alive! Let alone the points cost.
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There's a rumor on faeit212 that tyranids might be getting a chaod daemon style pamphlet soon that will have some update options giving the nids a chance against flying units. The rumors include a dual kit for the harpy / new flying MC that might have AA options, and also a rumor suggesting the pyrovore may be reworked with AA in mind. Season with a pinch of salt, but really until the codex gets an update like this nid players have to rely on rolling 6's for AA.
Linkie to a rumour plx?
Thanks.Tyranid warriors? I assume this is repackaged to include swords and wings sprue with a price increase or they will do separate shrike box?
It does? They're quite fragile compared to Gaunts because of Instant Death, among other things.
Vector Striking is better if they don't have a cover save.
If they have a cover save, then it'll depend a bit on what that is and whether you have Old Adversary on or near the Vector Striking Tyrant.
The specialists in the unit are also a consideration. You might want to go for the extra Devourers for the sake of Directed Shots.
Yes you get cover saves against Vector Strikes. You always get cover saves unless something ignores it. Close combat attacks specifically ignore cover saves, for instance. Getting a cover save is the norm.
Find cover saves in the index. That'll give you a page.
I shoot stuff until there's not much left, then I charge the rest with a bunch of things and it dies.
I get things done with Tyrants, Hive Guard, Zoanthropes, Termagants with Devourers, Biovores, Tervigons, and the occasional other non-Gaunt model.
Yes, 5 Attacks each. Hit them with Enfeeble if you can and then use Devourers to cause Instant Death and ignore their Feel No Pain, as well as to cause lots of Wounds with your little guns.
Roll 6s, I'm afraid. Old Adversary helps a little bit.
If you have too many friends and you like to lose a few you could split hairs over the difference between a "weapon emplacement" and an "emplaced weapon".
I may have to bitz-up some Pyrovores.
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I'm assuming (or... hoping?) that the "Harrier" build will be an anti-air FMC. I don't ever want to feel compelled to own a Pyrovore now that they're only available in Finecast.
I'm finding more and more with 6th that the only option for troops in a competitive is Termagants/Tervigons. Is anyone seeing any success with anything else? Even Hormagaunts remain underwhelming in my experience.
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