Seems more than worth it to me to take out annoying lance teks or despair teks, etc.Originally Posted by Finn
Seems more than worth it to me to take out annoying lance teks or despair teks, etc.
Eh?
You'll be buying champions anyway.
And your calculations are strange. I don't see how you arrived at 2/9.
His math is right. 1/6 + (1/3 * 1/6). I disagree with his conclusion that 10 points is too much for a 22 percent chance per reaper, per shooting phase to snipe a character though. You get a 30% chance on snap firing too, due to more rerolls.
Last edited by Kevlar; 10-08-2012 at 12:10.
I don't buy champions, as I'm not convinced it's worth it - I shouldn't need LOS! rolls to keep my RAC model alive. If I did, then that plus Precision Shots might be worth it, but I don't so... I still keep my Terminators cheap! If I even use them.
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Snaps shots can't be precision shots.
Just as well, otherwise Eldar players would be moving their Guided Rangers 1mm per turn to make sure they could reroll everything that wasn't one...
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Didn't know that, still will take the reaper on the champ for the lucky chance - lets use all the advantages we have
That's because he sucks, more so now without any invul save and only I4...
I don't see how that has any bearing on 6th edition changes.
On the other hand he causes instant death and wounds easily with many attacks. Only needs a scratch. His augmented warriors are better with the changes to fearless, and few things deny his feel no pain anymore.
Challenges make it relevent.
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Ah, I forgot about that.
Considering, he's better able to defend himself than before. He can't be picked out in close combat unless in a challenge, where he can hold his own against most things. And precision shots make his gun pretty nice.
The more I look at him the better he looks. His relatively poor initiative is basically the only downside.
I was mostly wondering if the changes to fearless (and glancing) made him more attractive.
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I actually think the inability to go to ground is a pretty big disadvantadge.
For power armored troops? I think I can count on one finger the amount of times I've went to ground with troops armed with PA and bolters/heavy weapons.
When you run expensive units of Plague Marines attracting attention from anti-tank and plasma weapons from all over the place, going to ground is a nice option to have.
Not as bad as SnP though, an inability to overwatch is a PITA
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That's the only nerf I found for them in 6th ed - no Overwatch
how would you best equip a Chaos Lord? i've armed mine with a Daemon weapon, Personal icon and meltabombs at 140pts while my Dark Apostle Lord has Mark of Tzeentch, Daemon weapon, Personal Icon at 150pts (MOT and personal icon to represent the accursed crozious abilities).
i was thinking of upgrading him with termi armour and running him with 5 terminators with power weapons and combi-weapons with chaos glory for the extra icon (i run lesser and greater daemons in 1500pts lower then swap with chaos daemons detachment for 2000pts + games).
EDIT: I also thought of going the whole way with the Dark Apostle and give him a Power Maul as that is what a Crozious is now classed as. possibly Power maul, MoT, Personal Icon at 125pts or take the Termi upgrade and a personal icon for the same price.
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Daemon weapons are only AP3. I'd arm mine with sorcerer, terminator armor, and a force axe.
Well, it depends if people allow the Invul save to mitigate the damn weapon biting you in the butt. I lurve the Tzeetch version
To disagree with the above, it's a power weapon. Its AP is based on what you model it as.
Last edited by El_Machinae; 12-08-2012 at 13:35.
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El machinae- its an unusual power weapon how ever you model it so it is AP3 with special rules from the codex
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