Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 65

Thread: From Zero to Hero!

  1. #1

    From Zero to Hero!

    The 6th edition brought some fundamental changes to special characters. Previously shuned characters are now amongst the greatest heroes of their kind:

    Mogul Kamir - Previously the worst SC in the codex now comes with some serious buffs: Instead of being uncontrolable he now grants RR +2 attacks on the charge and delivers 3+D3 attacks himself.

    Typhus - A previously medicore character who suffered from being easy to kill gained cockroach like survivability: T5 means he can't be insta-killed by anything below S10 and his FNP works against pretty much every attack. With 4 wounds it will take a while to down him.


    Any more notable zeroes that became heroes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm writing the Warseer version of "The Emperor's new clothes". In this version, when one guy points out that the Emperor is walking around stark naked, everyone gets mad at him and the two fraudsters who sold the invisible clothes get to carry on as normal.

  2. #2
    Librarian yarrickson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Scotland, Aberdeen
    Posts
    317

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Space Pope. I mean Aun'va. Now his whole units toughness 5 for instant death and when he does die the buffed preferred enemy kicks in letting your fire warriors and suits re-roll their shooting 1s.

  3. #3

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Typhus also went to Initiative 1 which doesn't do him any favours.
    Of all the threads in all the forums in all the world you had to post into this one.

  4. #4
    Commander Carlosophy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Sheffield, UK
    Posts
    715

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Ezekiel is much better now No Retreat has gone and he can change his powers. All friendly models within 12" regardless of codex are now Fearless.

  5. #5
    Chapter Master Walls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    1,816

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Does Kamir give the unit rage or does just he have it?

  6. #6
    Chapter Master RanaldLoec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK ( Land of sheep and cheap ale )
    Posts
    1,959

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Quote Originally Posted by Walls View Post
    Does Kamir give the unit rage or does just he have it?
    He gives rage and furious charge to his unit.

    A full unit of rough riders with lances now puts out 30 st5 in5 ap3 attacks.

    Not counting Kamir's

    Sadly furious charge still has zero effect on lance armed rough riders.
    For sale
    8 dragon ogres white metal for sale
    WANTED slaanesh daemons any
    All in the thread below

    http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...48#post6716248

  7. #7
    Chapter Master Radium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    The Netherlands.
    Posts
    2,919

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    All of the phoenix lords. Getting their armour saves pretty much all the time is pretty awesome, they're still pretty expensive, but at least they can put their money where their mouth is now.
    Nemesis Doom Thumb - Castigator
    Eldar Runes of Cheating - Cheeslord

    A single candle that shows the way... RIP Brimstone.

    I'm painting some Eldar again!
    Models bought in 2013: 57; painted in 2013: 47

  8. #8
    Chapter Master superdupermatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Over there. No not there, over THERE.
    Posts
    1,043
    Who the freak is Kamir???

  9. #9
    Librarian matt_17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    PE,SA
    Posts
    422

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Kamir is an IG special character. He follows an Mongolian horse warrior type theme.
    Chaos Marines Project Log - Just a click away... you know you want to...

    Record as of new CSM Codex: 9 wins/ 2 losses/ 0 draws
    Record as of new Daemons Codex: 1 wins/ 1 losses/ 0 draws
    IG + Daemons Allies: 21 wins (8 tablings, 10 crushing victories, 3 1-VP scrapes)/ 2 losses/ 1 draw

  10. #10

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    I wasn't very happy with the typhus changes, but i suppose it's an overall buff

  11. #11

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Masters of the Forge are better now. They've always suffered for coming with artificer armour but not having access to any invul save. Now he will get to strike use his armour against most things striking before him, have a flamer for overwatch and a plasma pistol + your choice if hand held weapon for (hopefully) precision shooting.
    Awesome. Awesome to the head.

  12. #12

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    I tried out Death Company Tycho earlier today. On the charge he has 6 Str5 I5 attacks that ignore armor, re-roll one failed wound, all while he hides behind a 2+ save, 4++ IV and 5+ FNP. Okay, so he wasn't entirely worthless before, but I'd like to think he makes up for Mephiston going from Hero to Zero. (I don't care what his statline looks like, I'm not sinking a Land Raider's points cost into an AP3 Force Weapon with the intent of assassinating enemy characters, thank you very much.)
    100 Gaunts on the field to shoot down, 100 Gaunts on the field, you shoot just one, then reload your gun, 99 Gaunts still alive to shoot down
    92% of people are very gullible and do whatever they read in someone's signature. If you are part of the 8% who don't, copy and paste this into your signature.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firaxin View Post
    Of course an autistic kid would go 3-0 with that list, autistic kids are ******* smart, man. Just don't expect him to talk much during the battle.

  13. #13

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Quote Originally Posted by RanaldLoec View Post
    He gives rage and furious charge to his unit.

    A full unit of rough riders with lances now puts out 30 st5 in5 ap3 attacks.

    Not counting Kamir's

    Sadly furious charge still has zero effect on lance armed rough riders.
    In total a full Rough Rider squad of ten with Mogul Kamir on the charge has 10 I10 S3 AP- Hammer of Wrath attacks followed by 32+d3 I5 S5 AP3 attacks.
    In short I finaly get to use my converted RR model on mechanical steed!

  14. #14

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Epidemius, he was meh. Giving buffs to the nurgle daemons was good, But you could make them but so good. Now, ally him with Tyhpus and a Death Guard army, Dear God you have the Dynamic duo from Hell, I hope your opponent has a lot of Railguns or demolisher cannons. I played such a combo yesterday, Even when Epidemius was taken out, Typhus, by himself when his Terminator unit was wiped out, held off Wyches with a Homunulus, and a Talos all by himself for several comat rounds, finally dying at the 5th turn I think, I never thought I would see Tyhpus of all people be ranked up in the top tier of CSM IC's. I have not tried Ahriman, but I think with the new powers and his special rules about using multiple shooting powers, I think he also got better.
    Quote Originally Posted by AngelofSorrow View Post
    Look snorri a troll!!!!
    100 games and you have a small list of bad things. Come on now. I've played around 100 games of 8th and I've had the best time I've ever had playing warhammer.

    Let's be realistic though your screenname is bonertron and the location in your profile says you are from planet fellatio. I'm having a hard time taking anything you say at face value.

  15. #15
    Chapter Master Xandros's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Kingdom of Denmark
    Posts
    1,860

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Luscious Lucius got a small buff. Note that he specifically has a power sword, but his riposte attacks flat out ignore armour saves. Snikt!

    Huron on the other hand, is really weird. Axe and power fist isn't a good combo. Abaddon also, having the awesomest weapons in the Galaxy and just AP3.

  16. #16
    Chapter Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Commorragh
    Posts
    2,270

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    The DE Klaivex, or in particular a Klaivex armed with Demiklaives, as the weapon has a mode which allows him to strike at +2S and AP2 without losing his initiative.

  17. #17
    Chapter Master Chem-Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Tantonis IV
    Posts
    5,541

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Mogul Kamir does suddenly shine quite a bit, which leads one to wonder if he was written with 6th in mind.

    Not that he was a true Zero, I'll have to vote for the Humble Primaris Psyker, with a Force Stave and Iron Arm Biomancy Power racks up an impressive Maximum S8. Failing that I'll settle for Endurance and stick him with an attendant squad of Ogryn
    40K spend '09: £205.70.'10: £87.50.'11: £29.00. '12: £89.00. '13: £6.00
    Models painted in 2013: 0.5

    Brimstone. Gone but not forgotten.

  18. #18
    Chapter Master Walls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    1,816

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    I tried him the other night. He was absolutely insane. 15 wounds with a unit of 8. He's super, super good now.

    Death Company takes the cake for me. I am thinking an all DC army is viable now minus the not being able to get objectives.

  19. #19

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    I believe the guard codex was the testing ground for rough ideas when they started looking toward 6th. It had the first true flyer model, usable tank squadrons, and a means of the HQ/chracters interacting directly with other units. I dont think Kamir was a testing ground though. I think Cruddace believed that hunting lances would interact with furious charge and used rage as a balancing tool.

  20. #20
    Librarian DietDolphin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    475

    Re: From Zero to Hero!

    Are we talking about just characters or are we talking about units that have gone from bad to great too?

    If so, I was going to say the Punisher tank is a bit better now (though I'm no expert on guard). With the change to vehicles it can reliably take out light tanks like rhinos, razorbacks and raiders as well as infantry, so its not so much of a one trick pony.

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •