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    Re: GW learning its lessons?

    Fair enough TBO.
    What you're essentially talking about is hypothetical spells that quite litterally says: Force me through on IF and Win.
    I would most certainly agree that this would not enhance the game one bit, quite on the contrary. Indeed, the prime reason why I've yet to play a Storm of Magic game is that the increased focus on magic found there has no appeal to me, I'm pretty much comfortable with where it's at in the 'normal' game and only carry pet peeves such as nominal casting values being used to dispel RiPs in subequent turns [as I mentioned upthread].
    Where I do differ from what I take to be the general consensus here is that the top-spells that do exist are more or less described as I-Win-Buttons, and I just harbour sincere disbelief toward that idea [in general] and specifically with regard to bigger game-sizes [round-about 10k] I know for a fact that the impact of essentially Everything I see people harp about is just diminished to a Point where further 'nerfs' would just make *insert subject* meaningless.

    And Dark Elves, being the strongest army ever [out of the ones I've sampled], is most certainly not going to keep that quaint ability to roll more than 6 Dice when/if updated to 8th. That one is a goner Before stuff like the Pendant and the cost of the Hydra is even brought under the looking glass. But such guesses are off topic by a slight margin I suppose.

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    Re: GW learning its lessons?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaemonReign View Post
    I doubt an inanimate fictive occurence has an opinion in the matter..
    The only pet peeve I have with the P-Sun, and this goes for all RiP spells in 8th, is that you should be forced to dispel it in subsequent phases on the casting value used to generate it.
    I.e. if it was cast Boosted beating its nominal ToCast value with your Dispel Dice in the next phase shouldn't cut it.
    So I guess essentially I'd like to see the P-Sun marginally buffed.
    Ah so if it's cast with IF, it can't be dispelled?

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    Forest, man, forest, with a single "r". Don't want to be pedantic, it's just if you do it twice, it's probably an honest mistake, we may as well point it out.

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    Re: GW learning its lessons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    Ah so if it's cast with IF, it can't be dispelled?
    No.. *duh*
    But if your opponant elects to cast it at its boosted value, then that boosted casting value is what you should have to beat in a subsequent phase.
    I just don't like how RiP-spells 'revert' back to be being dispelled at their lowest possible casting values.

    And no hard feelings about the for(R)ests either.. hehe Don't know why I double-tapped the r's there to be honest..

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    Re: GW learning its lessons?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaemonReign View Post
    No.. *duh*
    Ah... that was just humor, sorry, it does get a bit difficult to have that come through on the web. I don't agree that PS and any of the template autokill spells are really fine, but that's one horse that's been beaten to death (if it's been kicking around for this long, surely that was an undead horse) if there ever was one, on the other hand I do agree with you that casting values should be the ones that should be used for the further dispel attempts.
    Last edited by Urgat; 04-07-2012 at 13:27.

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    Re: GW learning its lessons?

    Oh.. *hm*
    I meant nothing harmfull with my Little *duh* either! Just so we're perfectly clear!
    I assumed all along you were kidding.. So *ahem* no hard feelings or missunderstandings on either side..

    About the Dispelling RiPs in Subsequent Phases:
    Remains in Play spells have become a bit too marginal in 8th. The Purple Sun is the only exception but that's in spite of being of RiP and in no way because of that status. So yeah.. that bit is a pet peeve I have..
    And hey I'm glad you agree on that part.

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