2500 pts VC - Comming back to Fantasy

[lasergreger]

Fantasy Army: Vampires

So I'm finally making a real effort to come back into the game. I haven't played since the middle of 7th and any knowledge I have has been gleened from these forums and friends who still play.

Anyhow, I'd like your help with my lists, some C&C. Mind that I am not trying to build "the ultimate" list in any way, I'm aiming for one that is fun yet competitive enough so that when I'v gotten some skill, it will win more then loose (aginst friends and tournament opponents).

Here it goes:

Vampire Lord
Wizard Level 4
Red Fury
Quickblood
Sword of Anti-Heroes
Armour of Destiny
Dragonhelm

Vampire
Wizard Level 2
Armour of Silvered Steel
Great Weapon
Quickblood

Necromancer
Wizard Level 2
Book of Arkhan
Dispel Scroll

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34 Crypt Ghouls
Ghast

49 Zombies
Musician
Std. Bearer

50 Zombies
Musician
Std. Bearer

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29 Grave Guard
Full Command
Great Weapons
Banner of the Barrows

3 Vargheists

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Varghulf

Mortis Engine

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So I was thinking the Lord goes with the Ghouls and the Vampire with the GG's, my thinking is to make both killy enough to be worriesome for my opponents. The Necromancer goes with the obvious zombie horde. The army will stay together and build itself up/stay alive with Lore of Vampires (on all wizards) and the Engine. The 'Gulfs will hunt warmachines, characters and take rears and flanks if the survive that long. The zombies will be 'pits and bunkers.

[Askari]

So I'm finally making a real effort to come back into the game. I haven't played since the middle of 7th and any knowledge I have has been gleened from these forums and friends who still play.

Anyhow, I'd like your help with my lists, some C&C. Mind that I am not trying to build "the ultimate" list in any way, I'm aiming for one that is fun yet competitive enough so that when I'v gotten some skill, it will win more then loose (aginst friends and tournament opponents).

Here it goes:

Vampire Lord
Wizard Level 4
Red Fury
Quickblood
Sword of Anti-Heroes
Armour of Destiny
Dragonhelm

No two magical armours! But it's fine, because you can take Heavy Armour, Talisman of Preservation and a Shield instead for +1 armour pip over what you have now.

Level 2 Vampire is expensive for not much benefit, more Grave Guard a much better option.

Apart from that, looks good!

[Valheru]

Also you can't take two arcane items on one character, dispel scroll or book of arkhan I'm afraid!
Overall list looks good, I'd be tempted to drop some zombies and ghouls to fit in some spirit hosts or dire wolves as re-directors/speed bumps

[lasergreger]

Thanks for the replies so far. I will ofcourse correct those magic item errors. I'm also thinking of nerfing both the Vampire and the Lord, to make room for other stuff.

[EcoWarrior]

in 2k i would only take your main wizard and then maybe 1 baby mage (2 if you want more IoN rolls). Keep the baby mages simple with as little gear as possible to stay cheap imo. Then i would say base 1 of them around a "signature spell" of any of the lores available to you e.g. lore of vampire = IoN lore of fire = Fireball (dont underestimate fireball btw, this can ruin light infantry and regen models), or maybe lore of metal for the anti heavy infantry but beware of high cast values on lore of metal, that is the few i would personally choose from.
What are your 34 crypt ghould going to do (your overall plan with them) ?
3 varghiest alone being your only fast moving unit will probably get wrecked first turn of shooting, magic or combat with anything that has better Initiative than you T4 no save is extramly squishy.
Mortis engines are blehh i dont know how to describe them tbh they are temprimental i could say and positively dangerous. I honestly think you can spend those points elsewere and acheive more.

[Askari]

I'm also thinking of nerfing both the Vampire and the Lord,

Nerf the hero to oblivion sure, don't even take him if you want. But don't do the same to the Lord.

Unless you're spending 200pts on upgrading him, he isn't worth it at all and you're better off with a Master Necromancer. No joking, Vampire Lords that cost less than say... 350pts... are a total waste of time.

[Maoriboy007]

Other tricksters shard is invaluable with red fury