most overprice/useless/unplayed units in 8th ed books

[Lance Tankmen]

hello, i started playing warhammer in 8th, so part of me likes to think its balanced and every unit has its uses unless they are from older books, and childish dreams that every list can be fun and competive using anything from the 5 8th ed books. Then i hear people say tomb kings are underpowered, orc boyz are unused, basic knights for the empire, yhetees are pointless. i sadly dont play any of these races so i cant try it first hand. but in your guys opinon whats the most overpriced/useless/unplayed model out of the 5 8th ed books? then which one for each book if there is one that comes to mind. im curious as to weather its fact or just players feelings

[DaemonReign]

The Daemon Prince (DoC) has got to be amongst the worst Lord Choices point-for-Point across all races.
And I know the WoC-one is pretty much on par with that although I have to say I personally Think the DoC-version is slightly worse off.

Screamers are pretty damn horrible too.

[Just looking at what's Close to heart here, I'll leave other Armies to other people who knows them better]

[thesheriff]

Glade Riders
Wardancers
Warhawk Riders
Wild riders

Wait, there seems to be a pattern...

thesheriff

[Malorian]

Glade Riders

Glade riders are amazing! The amount of times I've danced around my opponent in 8th while the hordes can't catch me.

If you ask me it's the best unit in the wood elve book right now!


I'd vote for wardancers though. Poor naked ninjas don't stand a chance now that things hit back...

Sure they can have a really slim chance at an assassination, or finish off weak units, but then anything can kill weak units.

[Gradolt]

Snotlings At least they build Pump Wagons too

[Urgat]

Snotlings At least they build Pump Wagons too

You beat me to it
Yeah, snotlings are up there. To the OP: regular orcs are good, it's just that savages are better.

[Gradek]

Well to answer the question as the OP posed it (ie ONLY pertaining to 8th edition books), then I would have to say that the most overpriced unit is possibly empire handgunners, although one could make a pretty good case for Ushtabi as well.

[pointyteeth]

Snotlings, bow Ushabti.

[Lorcryst]

Snotlings, +1.

A 50% increase in price, a move up to the Special section, the new unstable rules ... poor snots ... to think I have almost 20 bases of them, gathering dust ...

[Jack of Blades]

Most overpriced is probably a level 4 high liche priest using light or death. Why? because you've got to pay another 210 point 'tax' to use one. The tax is slightly more potent than a skeleton in combat but 52,5 times more expensive, it can't shoot and if you want to use the magic you just paid to not use it'll leech needed dice from the real spells. I'd rather have 210 points of snotlings, wardancers, screamers or whatever than a 210 point tax if you want to use a light or death high liche priest.

[Crube]

Snotlings, empire handgunners/crossbows, bow ushabti...

Others may be 'underpowered' but I find there is still generally a use for them somewhere. If you look hard enough. Maybe behind the couch...

[Malorian]

I had a tournament a few years back where snotlings did very well.

Basically each game turn you would gamble with your opponent on how much you were willing to lose. Whoever gave the highest number got to go first BUT they also had to remove that many wounds from their list.

The guy with snotlings was going first all the time

[SimaoSegunda]

Sadly, because I really love the fluff, and the bonuses given by Loremaster and 4+ chanelling, I have to say that the Gobbo Great Shaman on Arachnarok build is pretty rare to see on the battlefield, mainly because it sucks up a lot of Lord points, especially if you want to protect the shaman. I really want it to work, and I might give it another try, but basically its points cost is very prohibitive, and it can deny you access to a big fighty warboss. I'd love for somebody to tell me I'm wrong, because I've designed a Feral OnG army that I really want to use, that involves him, but... yeah.

[Andy p]

Sadly, because I really love the fluff, and the bonuses given by Loremaster and 4+ chanelling, I have to say that the Gobbo Great Shaman on Arachnarok build is pretty rare to see on the battlefield, mainly because it sucks up a lot of Lord points, especially if you want to protect the shaman. I really want it to work, and I might give it another try, but basically its points cost is very prohibitive, and it can deny you access to a big fighty warboss. I'd love for somebody to tell me I'm wrong, because I've designed a Feral OnG army that I really want to use, that involves him, but... yeah.

I think a GGS on arach has great potential in a large storm of magic game surrounded by lots of cheap low level gobbo shamen to generate dice.

[Lance Tankmen]

enjoyed reading the replies, well the ones that acually read my question, i know WE and other 6-7th books have unused units thats why i said 8th ed books only... to see if GW made the units right this time around

[thesheriff]

Glade riders are amazing! The amount of times I've danced around my opponent in 8th while the hordes can't catch me.

If you ask me it's the best unit in the wood elf book right now!

I won't get into this argument again Malorian. Sufficed to say I still maintain that Glade Riders are the single worst unit in the wood elf book when facing any balanced arny with shooting units.

And I missed the bit w/ 8th Ed books only. Chalk me up for bow Ubshabti. Just awful....

[Lance Tankmen]

odd i heard the GW ubshabti were worse than the bow ones...

[gdsora]

Tomb Heralds

Why even bother.


Just give me the +25 point BSB option for a prince, like basically every other army book

[Lance Tankmen]

well i figured with tomb heralds you use em to guard a tomb king with with DoE

[The bearded one]

I won't get into this argument again Malorian. Sufficed to say I still maintain that Glade Riders are the single worst unit in the wood elf book when facing any balanced arny with shooting units.

Me too, I don't think they'll last more than 2 rounds against my skinks.

While not really overpriced or useless, gnoblar scraplaunchers nowadays appear to be virtually entirely unplayed in favour of fancy ironblasters.

I don't expect you'll see many empire swordsmen again either. 7 points for that? And they even lost a point of initiative? No thanks, 5 dozen halbediers instead please.

Any kind of swarm unit in any kind of army is almost always overpriced, useless and unplayed by default. Tomb swarms and snotlings ahoy!