Best/Worst special character (fluff and gaming)

[Arnizipal]

Yeh that would be nice. In my view a Nagash army would be a vampire army-list without the vampires (they all hate him except Manfred who is a total idiot).

And a bunch of Necrarchs who love him for his knowledge.

[Athelassan]

A true Nagashizzar army would, I suspect, have elements of both the Nehekhara and Vampires lists. That's probably one of the reasons it's never really been done (not since the 4th ed Undead army); there's not space for three Undead armies and the Nagashizzar list wouldn't be visually distinctive enough, while at the same time being far too versatile to the point of overpoweredness. I'm not sure what its USP would be, either, but they'd probably make up two stupid massive monster things that come as a dual kit and therefore seem to cost more than they do and should and yet also look basically the same as each other, to fill that gap. Or perhaps they could add some more words to the units in the Vampires list to create new units: Banehexwraiths; Cave Tomb Stalagmite Ghouls; Supergiant Doomwingbats of Doom; and so forth.

[Bannik]

A true Nagashizzar army would, I suspect, have elements of both the Nehekhara and Vampires lists. That's probably one of the reasons it's never really been done (not since the 4th ed Undead army); there's not space for three Undead armies and the Nagashizzar list wouldn't be visually distinctive enough, while at the same time being far too versatile to the point of overpoweredness. I'm not sure what its USP would be, either, but they'd probably make up two stupid massive monster things that come as a dual kit and therefore seem to cost more than they do and should and yet also look basically the same as each other, to fill that gap. Or perhaps they could add some more words to the units in the Vampires list to create new units: Banehexwraiths; Cave Tomb Stalagmite Ghouls; Supergiant Doomwingbats of Doom; and so forth.

I had an idea that the Nagash army (which will come I know it will) would be filled with necromancer style MONKS or priests, the army would be called "Cult of Nagash" and it would be an elite style army like the grey knights of fantasy, each one is a magic user (powered by Nagash) and each one is a fantastic fighter (like Shaolin monks) they do a lot of meditating, wield weird and exotic weapons powered by DEATH.

[Craze_b0i]

Well i don't think it would ever merit a whole new army or book. It would be a specialist list based on vampires and/or Tombkings, either included as an appendix or as part of a campaign book.

[Richard35]

Teclis would be the best or the worst, depending if you play with him or against him. The special characters of the Lizardmen are the worst, cost too much.

[Soundwave]

It has to be Tullaris high executioner of Har Geneth for me.He was so awesome in 5th ed 2 wounds,fear,dealt d3 wounds and the black amulet!Now he is not even a zombie of him former self... Koran is a close second!Fluff wise these guys are fantastic but point for point on the field of battle these guys have no grace or place!

[ArtificerArmour]

I like Ghorros because he goes around sowing his seed. Dislike him because aparently everyones related to him, including gor ( defined as a seperate race!) :/

The rules for all the beastmen are pretty dire to be honest. Even gorthor, perhaps the most successful beastlord ever to exist, could not find an item to give him a ward save. The one who came from the moon and gibbers has one for free!!

[b0007452]

Markus Wolfhart, the new Empire Huntsmaster is a massive let down in game terms. He really can achieve very little.

I don't mind his fluff as bad though, and there is a pretty cool picture of him on his page in the AB; but that's all the positives I allow for him.

[Naanomi]

Fluffwise, I like the fluff on the 'scarab guy' in the TK book, Kholek. I miss Durthu.

Shadowblade, Throgg, have fun mechanics I've enjoyed

Fluff and mechanics success: Drycha (if only you could have a BSB...); Green Knight; Oxyoatl; Tallymaster
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On armies I actually play, I am not impressed nor particularly unimpressed with any of the O+G ones in either mechanics or fluff (always had a soft spot for Snarsnik despite his mechanical shortcomings. I just like squigs though so hard to pass up a special squig)

For ogres, lots of failure on fluff and mechanics: Skrag is the only who passes both tests for me, and Golfag's fluff as 'the uber-maneater' is great, especially given his established history, but he is embarrassing on the field. Bragg and Goldtooth are a failure in mechanics and fluff for me across the board.

[hellharlequin]

And a bunch of Necrarchs who love him for his knowledge.

and some living followers just for the flavor

[Athlan na Dyr]

Clearly the best character in-game and in the fluff is the Reiksmarshal, Kurt Helborg himself. Not only a really decent combat character (for a human statline) in the game, but a real badass in the fluff.

Bah! The only Kurt worthy of mention is Daisy Kurt von Helboring II! And of course, her rider the Mad Count of Averland. Marius is a highly intelligent raving madman and for that reason, among various others, I've always enjoyed the little fluff bits about Lietdorf. The same goes for Thanquol.

Worst fluff wise would be Kaldor Draigo or Greasus Goldtooth. Whilst the former is best left to rot in another universe, the later is noted for being a cheat and the fattest b!tch out there. My care for the immense girth and number of chins of the fat one is precisely zero.

Game wise I'm not really aquainted with all that many, but Heinrich Kemmler has always seemed rather useful if used with the proper support. Conversely his counterpart Krell seems quite poor.

And of course, the character with the best in-universe life is Orion. In the Spring and Summer he's out chilling with the boys, hunting some humans in a festival based on drunken violence and wild abandon. In the Autumn and Winter he's at home with his (by all accounts, extremely attractive) wife who doesn't nag him.
And you know, he's immortal and stuff.

[Urgat]

And of course, the character with the best in-universe life is Orion. In the Spring and Summer he's out chilling with the boys, hunting some humans in a festival based on drunken violence and wild abandon. In the Autumn and Winter he's at home with his (by all accounts, extremely attractive) wife who doesn't nag him.

Worthless, lazy bum is what comes to mind.

[Athlan na Dyr]

Yes, as a war leader, king or whatnot Orion is hardly fantastic, but if you had to pick a Special Character to live as Orion would be pretty high up on my list.

[warboss6820]

Yeah or mr. snitch. You dont worry about being assasinated because you ARE the assasin. No idiot would cross you uless he wanted to end up face down in a sewer. God that would help in skaven society. Hehehehehe

[BigbyWolf]

Yeah or mr. snitch. You dont worry about being assasinated because you ARE the assasin. No idiot would cross you uless he wanted to end up face down in a sewer. God that would help in skaven society. Hehehehehe

Shadowblade would have something to say about that.

[warboss6820]

Shadowblade would have something to say about that.

This is true if he could find their base

[Urgat]

Shadowblade would have something to say about that.

Being at the top of the emo chain, I wonder how he hasn't assassinated himself yet.

[Drasanil]

Last I checked dark elves preferred cutting other people as opposed to themselves

[grumbaki]

The problem with being the best is that everyone else wants to be the best. And once they succeed, as an assassin, that usually means that you aren't alive to regret the loss. Personally, I wouldn't want the title.

[Spedgal]

The problem with being the best is that everyone else wants to be the best. And once they succeed, as an assassin, that usually means that you aren't alive to regret the loss. Personally, I wouldn't want the title.

Warhammer - Man with the Golden Gun? World's Best Assassin showdown? That would make Shadowblade Scaramanga and Snitch Bond?