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    Dwarf Rumours

    In an effort to pull together what few rumours we have …
    I have started threads for each of the armies rumoured to be somewhere in the pipeline.
    I will do my best to keep the first posts updated as more rumours appear in these threads.
    I have tried to remember as much as I can of what has been posted so far but I will have missed or forgotten some of it ... so, any rumours that have been posted please just remind me ‘who’ said ‘what’ and I will update this first post.

    Dwarves:

    Release date: Unknown.
    But there are rumours of a big overhaul. (Harry) I guess when they come depends on how big an overhaul they get. "I anticipate a bigger redo and a longer project"
    From what I've been told expect an extensive revamp of the Dwarfs, not a little update with some new minis.
    Long gone are the days of the little guys with beards doing nothing in a corner of your game table !(Earlybird)
    Not in 2012 (Lord Dan)
    2013 has been suggested. (Mirbeau)
    Expected before WE (Birdy via Darnock)
    Models were being worked on the same time as Empire models,and had boxes being printed at the same time ... back before the Empire release. (Alebelly_Cragfist)


    Author: Unknown.
    However there is a rumour that the Dwarf book is one of three nearing completion. (meltedwing)

    Rules:
    Dwarfs have been deemed boring to play and boring to fight against.
    So the idea is to give you a new efficient chassis. Sure you will be able to stay in your corner with your guns and cannons. But you will also have the opportunity to be much more aggressive and quickly occupy the table. (Earlybird)
    Squadrons of Gyros are being considered. (Alebelly_Cragfist)
    Rumours of new additions to the list:
    Dwarf Lord on throne will not be special character only. (Nocculum)
    New special unit ... dwarf contraptions (See below) (Indrazor)

    Models:
    Rumours of a a big plastic, steam driven, wheeled, orc mashing, monsterous contraption (Harry)
    In the image of the ancestors as per Dwarf illustration.(Don't remember who first pointed this out)
    Roumour of a Dwarf statue. (Not sure if it is a Golem or a terrain piece) (Scopey)
    On the big Orc mashing kit, it's actually a large plastic re-imagining of the old "dwarf juggernaut" model... with a smashy fist option (as one of three (iirc) options) (Hastings)
    Latest 'Blackfire Pass' WHFRP supplement specifically mentions 2 new machines available to Engineers - The War Zeppelin and a 'warmachine in the likeness of an ancestor.' Such fluff has to be OK'd by GW HQ, so they're happy for both to be canon, which would suggest that whatever the Dwarfs get, it'll be one if not both of these.... The artwork in numerous recent GW releases picturing both would lend further weight to this rumour.(Alebelly_Cragfist)
    The 'warmachine in the likeness of an ancestor' already has a description on the latest WHFRP supplement, described as one of two new machines available to the Engineer's Guild, there's also a few illustrations of them. Once upon a time, there was also a 'Dwarf Juggernaut' model and it may well be that they're revisiting that concept anew. I don't think it will be a walking dwarf statue a la Stone Golem. Expect wheels, cogs and big hammers. (Alebelly_Cragfist)
    Huge Catapault. Plastic stone thrower. (Mirabeau) (Could this be another one of the options hastins mentions?)
    People have heard about those robotic contraptions in WoW. Those nice machines the dwarves there build to help them defend and mine. Picture that and place that on a large base in plastic for Warhammer as the new special unit. (Indrazor)
    Plastic slayers (Hastings, Eldargal, Lord Dan)
    Hammerers and Ironbreakers. (Mirabeau, NatTreehouse,) Not a Dual kit. (Mirabeau)
    Rumours of a Gyrocopter.
    Rumour about a HUGE Dwarf cannon. (? Seems to be based on old concept drawings ... see post 14)

    ForgeWorld:
    Blackfirepass supplement.
    Forgeworld have also confirmed they will be releasing a Zep kit, just not when.
    They are also releasing their own Dwarfs in much the same way as their CDs.
    Concentrating on named character models.
    (Alebelly_Cragfist)


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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    I'm sure I saw rumours somewhere of a larger gyrocopter, almost like a bi-plane kind of contraption, but it could conceivably have been wishlisting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkawtheFalconer View Post
    I'm sure I saw rumours somewhere of a larger gyrocopter, almost like a bi-plane kind of contraption, but it could conceivably have been wishlisting.
    Well its a rumour now.
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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    Zep is definitely coming, at least the rules for one in Dec 2012 as part of the Blackfire Pass book being released by Forgeworld. Forgeworld have also confirmed they will be releasing a Zep kit, just not when. They are also releasing their own Dwarfs in much the same way as their CDs.

    Latest 'Blackfire Pass' WHFRP supplement specifically mentions 2 new machines available to Engineers - The War Zeppelin and a 'warmachine in the likeness of an ancestor.' Such fluff has to be OK'd by GW HQ, so they're happy for both to be canon, which would suggest that whatever the Dwarfs get, it'll be one if not both of these. As FW are doing a Zep, it makes it less likely, although not improbable, that GW will release a big plastic Zep kit. The artwork in numerous recent GW releases picturing both would lend further weight to this rumour.

    Slightly more sketchy, but popular is whispers via an "undisclosed GW source" that squadrons of Gyros are being considered.

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    All good stuff. First post updated. Many thanks.
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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    If FW release a Zepplin then the chances that it will be a core release shrinks significantly.

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    I hope that the Zepplin rumour is correct as it sounds awesome. But I'm not sure I want FW to be making the model. To me, it seems awkward to use another companies model. Don't know why I feel that way as FW has some fantastic sculpts (though a bit more pricey than GW imo). Maybe it's the collector in me.

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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    Couple of years old now, maybe (can't remeber how long ago it was), but there was talk of a larger dwarf cannon. This was before the ogre book, so possibly the rules would be a more reliable version of the Skytitan cannon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orcboy_Phil View Post
    Couple of years old now, maybe (can't remeber how long ago it was), but there was talk of a larger dwarf cannon. This was before the ogre book, so possibly the rules would be a more reliable version of the Skytitan cannon.
    You are right. there was.
    I will add it to the first post.
    If anyone can remember who posted this please remind me so I can credit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cedric View Post
    I hope that the Zepplin rumour is correct as it sounds awesome. But I'm not sure I want FW to be making the model. To me, it seems awkward to use another companies model. Don't know why I feel that way as FW has some fantastic sculpts (though a bit more pricey than GW imo). Maybe it's the collector in me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Porsenna View Post
    Forgeworld IS GW. It is a subdivision of the company, aiming at more of a high-end market (and vets).

    Damon.
    Yes, I am aware the FW is a subdivision company of GW and sorry for making it sound like it wasn't. Thank you for helping clear up my mess. What I was meaning was in terms of collective 8th edtion releases. We have seen GW recently produce big centerpieces like Luminark, Mortis Engine, Arachnarock, Warshpinx, Thundertusk etc.. that it seems a bit off-the-path for FW to possibly make the Zepplin for Dwarfs and not GW directly. I don't have anything against FW, it's just my personal preference would be for a GW direct sculpt.

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    Updated first post ... found an older Dwarf rumour thread I had missed.
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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    Some time ago (like six months or so) it was a persistent rumour about Dwarfs being "the Wood Elfs of 8th edition" in terms of a complete revamp of the aestetics and a whole new range (nothing or almost nothing will be preserved from the current range). I like this rumour, because the current range is a complete mess that needs lots of work, from the 4th/5th edition-old hammerers and slayers to the hideous and awful 2005 plastic infantry kits.
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    I think the rumours of the 'huge cannon' sprang from concept artwork for teh exisiting range of Dwarf models back in 2004, such as:

    http://www.bugmansbrewery.com/galler...ery_7_2481.jpg

    http://www.bugmansbrewery.com/galler...ry_7_47975.jpg

    I haven't heard of any rumours for a huge cannon in the new line up. Do people really want Dwarfs to have an even more potent cannon than they already do?!

    EDIT:
    Hmmn, those images were s'posed to embed via [img] bbcode...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ultra View Post
    Some time ago (like six months or so) it was a persistent rumour about Dwarfs being "the Wood Elfs of 8th edition" in terms of a complete revamp of the aestetics and a whole new range (nothing or almost nothing will be preserved from the current range). I like this rumour, because the current range is a complete mess that needs lots of work, from the 4th/5th edition-old hammerers and slayers to the hideous and awful 2005 plastic infantry kits.
    Yeah- I am interested to see how they redevelop the range- I love dwarfs but the current range largely leaves me cold. Best things in it are a few character models, the long beards and the iron breaker standard bearer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alebelly_Cragfist View Post
    I think the rumours of the 'huge cannon' sprang from concept artwork for teh exisiting range of Dwarf models back in 2004, such as:

    http://www.bugmansbrewery.com/galler...ery_7_2481.jpg

    http://www.bugmansbrewery.com/galler...ry_7_47975.jpg

    I haven't heard of any rumours for a huge cannon in the new line up. Do people really want Dwarfs to have an even more potent cannon than they already do?!

    EDIT:
    Hmmn, those images were s'posed to embed via [img] bbcode...
    Those look more like something forge world might do in the Blackfire Pass book?
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    They were concept drawings done for GW prior to the current range of plastics. If you look through the entire range of drawings, you'll see that some of it filtered through (the odd shield design). These were all done back in 2004, many years before FW were doing anything other than 40K releases, I don't think there's a connection. From what I understand, FW will be working on named character models, at least that's the hints they've given to date. I would be really keen to see their take on core units though, even if they were released as special rules 'regiments of renown' type units.

    I'm quite taken with the idea that there is a major overhaul happening with the Dwarfs, so long as they are able to make iconic units like Slayers worth taking and being able to differentiate between elite units better. That said, they're not really in need of a major overhaul unless GW have taken to heart the comments about limited play styles and troop choices, and "liek, ma mage doesn't work, haxX!" comments from dull opponents.

    I have a sinking feeling Runesmiths will become less spell eaters and more spell dampeners, diminishing the effects of a spell in some way and/or using that to augment some form of offensive "magic" phase of their own. That's just pure speculation on my part though and other than "we're thinking about how to use them", there hasn't been any firm rumours on this to date that I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alebelly_Cragfist View Post
    I think the rumours of the 'huge cannon' sprang from concept artwork for teh exisiting range of Dwarf models back in 2004 ...
    Thanks for clearing that up.

    Updated first post.
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    Re: Dwarf Rumours

    After a year of petulance followed by a year of silence, these rumour boards are finally starting to look interesting again (even if it is all rehashing).

    Kudos Harry!

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    On the big Orc mashing kit, it's actually a large plastic re-imagining of the old "dwarf juggernaut" model... with a smashy fist option (as one of three (iirc) options)

    Doesn't my post about plastic slayers about 2 years ago entitle me to a mention on that front Harry?
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