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    Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    I was wondering (and since the dwarf army I am making will have some body parts on the bases) what does the fluff says about the blood of the different species in the old world (I think that´s what the warhammer world is called) do they all bleed red (like humans) or is there differences in their blood color, like the blood of the vampire being more black or something like that?

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    No idea, but before someone goes and says greenskins bleed green, no, thanks Gork, they don't, they bleed dark red. Don't remember the source, but it's clearly written somewhere. 4th ed AB if I had to take a guess.

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Well, I think it's safe to say that most species in the Warhammer world have translucent blood. After all arthropods are the secret sovereigns of the planet.

    As for the various intelligent races (I guess that's what you were referring to), there is little to no information about their biology. But seeing how most are humanoid in appearance (especially with pink flesh), I think they'll bleed red. Inside we all look the same!

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Do vampires even bleed? After all, in the warhammer world its less about the blood when they feed as someones essence. I can't see a circulatory system being very useful to a being that isn't actually alive.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    There are several short stories in the 6th Edition Vampire Counts book that blatantly state that Vampires do bleed, however not very much. In the story that comes to mind, a Vampire had a Bretonian knight hit him full force with his lance, causing it to go through his body and slightly protrude out the other side. This caused a "trickle of blood" to come out of the wound.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    No idea, but before someone goes and says greenskins bleed green, no, thanks Gork, they don't, they bleed dark red. Don't remember the source, but it's clearly written somewhere. 4th ed AB if I had to take a guess.
    Actually i have old white dwarfs (the ones where questions by readers were answered) where the question was asked wich colour their blood is. The answer is that green was the original colour as to emphasise their "alien" fysionomy (there is even a picture of Grombrindal with green orc blood). They changed it because green blood on green skin was kinda messy and didn't work on figurines.

    So short answer: it was green, now it's red :-)

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Different coloured blood is a nice thing to consider in fantasy as it adds depth but the fact remains that unless you are Undead you need haemoglobin to carry oxygen around the body otherwise you would die very quickly. So unless various monsters of the Old World have different coloured haemoglobin then no, they all bleed red. Although it wouldn't be unknown for fantasy writers to defy biology.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Well you don't necessarily need haemoglobin; you can live very well with blue or green blood, too. There are blood molecules that act very much akin to haemoglobin but are instead copper-based, for example.

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Life Form View Post
    Well you don't necessarily need haemoglobin; you can live very well with blue or green blood, too. There are blood molecules that act very much akin to haemoglobin but are instead copper-based, for example.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    I'd say its very unlikely that a creature would end up wit green skin if its blood was red. But hey why practice logic? =P

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Life Form View Post
    Well you don't necessarily need haemoglobin; you can live very well with blue or green blood, too. There are blood molecules that act very much akin to haemoglobin but are instead copper-based, for example.
    Yes but all the 'races' of the Warhammer World are vertebrates, who all have haemoglobin. Of course you can have green and blue blood but that wasn't the OP's question. Of course, creatures of Chaos and devolved beasts that aren't vertebrates could feasibly have different coloured blood, but they are not races in themselves.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Yes about demons do their corpse remain in the real world when they are killed, or do they disintegrate when they are killed?

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Some nobleman used to have a Bloodthirster's head hanging in his living room as a trophy. Then again other accounts claim Daemon corpses deteriorate into a slimy goo. It's probably as always: things concerning Daemons are just too chaotic to make a universally valid statement.

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDungen View Post
    I'd say its very unlikely that a creature would end up wit green skin if its blood was red. But hey why practice logic? =P
    Because black people don't have black blood, fishes don't have grey blood (or multicolored blood or whatever, there's fishes of every color), grass's sap isn't green, etc etc And just taking myself for example, I'm not red, heck, I'm not even pink, I'm almost white. Still my blood's stark red
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    There's been several mentions of Skaven having nearly black blood, although I assume it's more like a very dark brownish red. All told though, red and variations thereof seems to be the norm.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Reptiles often have very 'watery' blood, both in viscosity and in color, compared to mammals. Lizardmen might be the same way.

    I wouldn't imagine Vampires really 'bleed' unwillingly, as I suspect they have greater control over the flow of such things than a living creature would.

    Daemons are probably all over the place, as are other supernatural creatures (forest spirit sap?) and the heavily chaos tainted

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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    Because black people don't have black blood, fishes don't have grey blood (or multicolored blood or whatever, there's fishes of every color), grass's sap isn't green, etc etc And just taking myself for example, I'm not red, heck, I'm not even pink, I'm almost white. Still my blood's stark red
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    I like to think that Greenskins have green blood but on hitting air it turns red therefore satisfying all fluff conditions.
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urgat View Post
    No idea, but before someone goes and says greenskins bleed green, no, thanks Gork, they don't, they bleed dark red. Don't remember the source, but it's clearly written somewhere. 4th ed AB if I had to take a guess.
    The colour of greenskin blood is described in the 5th edition Battle Book.
    I think it ranged from dark red to purple (much as I would love for them to have green blood).

    Quote Originally Posted by cosy View Post
    Actually i have old white dwarfs (the ones where questions by readers were answered) where the question was asked wich colour their blood is. The answer is that green was the original colour as to emphasise their "alien" fysionomy (there is even a picture of Grombrindal with green orc blood). They changed it because green blood on green skin was kinda messy and didn't work on figurines.

    So short answer: it was green, now it's red :-)
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    There's been several mentions of Skaven having nearly black blood, although I assume it's more like a very dark brownish red. All told though, red and variations thereof seems to be the norm.
    Indeed. Trolls are also said to have black blood (in the Dark Omen game - incidentally greenkins have green blood in that game).
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    Re: Do all the species in the old world that can bleed bleed red?

    i didn't say they needed to have green blood i said they probably wouldn't have green skin. a slight tinge of red would shine through and their skin would be a a greenish brown. All skin is filled with small small veins, its not the only thing that colours our skin not even the most important thing, but it does affect our skin colour.

    Reptiles are another matter cause they have scales. Scales isnt living tissue, it doesn't need blood, thus there are no veins in it and no tinge of red.

    Also beastmen is just a common name for a group of mutants, depending on how they're mutated i guess their blood colour could differ as widely as chaos spawn.

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