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    Krieg Armoured Battlegroup

    My favourite army is Krieg...what a surprise...artillery wins wars! But I am a big fan of the Armoured Battlegroup, too. So for a long time, I have been in a dilemma: I wanted the best of the Krieg siege regiment list from IA 5 and an Armoured Battlegroup from IA 1 with its ace skills. There was a special Krieg Armoured Battlegroup in IA 7, but I missed some issues from it, mostly the ace skills.
    The 6th edition of 40k came in quite handy for me: after Forgeworld released the new allies rules for Forgeworld IGs, I am now able to play the Armoured battlegroup and ally (myself ) with the Krieg siege regiment. So now I can have both: tons if lovely Krieg tanks (and ace skills) and tons of artillery!

    So my project is, to include the new tanks and guns to my existing 262nd Krieg siege regiment. According to fluff, the Siege regiments dont have that much tanks, so they ask the Armoured battlegroups to lend them their tanks. That fact fitted perfextly in my concept! (which turned actually into a semi-mobile tank/siege artillery army). And this will be the birth of the 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup!

    You will notice, that I use miniatures of Forgeworld ONLY! I am quite picky on this, so...sorry, no conversions with Tamiya trucks! I am not a good re- and scratch-builder, I rather paint a lot. So, you will get pictures of my painting progress of my army. Maybe you will notice, that I mainly use washes and ink rather then base color. Actually, besides skull white primer, I almost use no base color, washes are my colors and the results are great. It was important for, that the painting process is easy to reproduce, is time saving, but I still can achieve as good effects as I can...for there are still over a hundred Krieg soldiers to paint!

    Concerning bases: I chose for my bases a world full of rock, stone, slate, which splinters if it is hit and gravel. You might ask: okay, but why would this be a toxic world? The planet also has jungles and woods, which inhabit toxic spores...and the enemy is hiding in big fortresses, cut out of the hilltops and mountains. I think this is a ideal playground for a Krieg army!

    I hope you enjoy the army and have as much fun as I have with painting. I will post pictures, army list, histories and stuff. Comments are welcome and appreciated! :chrome:
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup

    all Leman Russ tanks have Mars Alpha pattern hulls with Krieg modified Ryza pattern turrets

    red = ordered
    blue = built
    green = finished painting
    purple = wishlist

    ============================= HQ ==============================

    Company Command Tank:
    Leman Russ Vanquisher, BS 4
    Lascannon, camo netting, coaxial heavy stubber, veteran commander


    ============================= Elite ==============================

    Squadron Command Tank:
    Leman Russ Exterminator, BS 3
    Heavy bolter, sponson heavy bolters


    Techpriest Enginseer
    Two servitors


    Grenadier Squad (10)
    demo charge, 2 meltaguns, vox


    ============================= Standard ==============================

    Tank Squadron:
    Leman Russ, BS 3
    Lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, disciplined crew

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    Tank Squadron:
    Leman Russ Demolisher, BS 3
    Heavy bolter, sponson heavy bolters


    ============================= Fast Attack ==============================

    Hellhound Squadron:

    Hellhound, Artemia pattern
    Devil Dog


    ============================= Heavy Support ==============================

    Super Heavy detachment:
    Stromblade
    Command tank upgrade


    Destroyer Tank Hunter, BS 3
    Laser Destroyer Cannon, camo netting, slick loader


    Ordnance battery:
    Medusa, Armageddon pattern
    closed crew compartment, camo netting, bastion bracher shells

    Collossus
    ace gunner

    Thunderbolt Heavy Fighter

    262nd Krieg Siege Regiment (as allies for the ABG)

    ============================= HQ ==============================

    Company Command Squad
    Regimental standard, vox, melta bombs, flamer, carapace armour

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    Astropath

    ============================= Elite ==============================

    Heavy Mortar battery:
    3 Heavy mortars


    ============================= Standard ==============================

    Platoon Command Squad
    Platoon standard, vox, 2 meltaguns, melta bombs, Commissar


    Infantry Squad
    vox, plasma gun, Commissar
    Infantry Squad
    vox, plasma gun, Commissar
    Infantry Squad
    vox, grenade launcher
    Infantry Squad
    vox, flamer
    Heavy weapons squad
    Autocannons
    Heavy weapons squad
    Lascannons


    10 Engineers with Hades
    Mole launcher, demo charge, Hades breaching drill


    ============================= Fast Attack ==============================

    Death Rider Squad
    Hunting lances, melta bombs, Commissar


    ============================= Heavy Support ==============================

    Ordnance battery:
    Medusa Siege Gun
    bastion breacher shells, camo netting


    ================================================== =======================

    Note that the list is just displaying what I have right now. But I still have a need/wishlist for units I want to add:

    - Vendetta gunship
    - Hydra flak tank
    - 2nd Medusa gun (three guns count as one HS choice)
    - some more Leman Russes

    - Valdor Tank Hunter
    - Malcador Infernus
    - Macharius
    - Marauder Destroyer
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    details and history

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    here are the first pictures,the Senior Company Commander and a Junior officer with power fist and bolt pistol:





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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    The coat of the officer is very bright for a Kriegan, however I have to admit these two are really well painted. The shading looks really good on the officer and the paint job on the junior officer is really good too. Nice work!

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    unfortuneatly, the brightness is a camera issue. if you look at it in real light, it is more dark and looks like leather. I took the desert look, to have a diffetent one and not the standard grey/blueish everyone uses. here is a darker example:



    since Krieg has access to Commissar-Generals, i thought this would be cool.

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    Well that´s a good start Sir !
    I like the fluf I must admit and I do like your color sheme,

    however the brightness is an issue,
    a. did you use a flash? (if yes try without)
    b. did you try Picasa? (free software) that does wonderful things with bad photo´s

    consider me subcribed and keep up the good things.
    This is a Dark Age, a Bloody age, an age of Daemons and of Sorcery. It is an age of Battle and Death, and of the world´s ending. Amidst all of the Fire, Flame and Fury it is a time, too, of Mighty Heroes, of Bold Deeds and Great Courage. William King
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    I am always browsing the net for another Krieg logs, nice to see a new one surface. The paintjob seems really nice but the photo is rly too bright i think. Once im finished with my other armies i will start painting my own DkoK as well. And... imo ur death korps are too CLEAN, add mud

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    These are looking very nice, keep up the painting war! I always liked the "washed out" coloring for krieg models. Are you using primarily washes? I agree with Wochtulka that some terrain on the bases could add alot to these figs. I would say snow, mud or muddy snow could all add alot of character. I also love the junior officer. Something about krieg + powerfist is pretty awesome (it must be that increased WS4 )
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    Quote Originally Posted by Wochtulka View Post
    And... imo ur death korps are too CLEAN, add mud
    Well, I believe Imperial Armour 5,6 and 7 put a picture of a Death Korps in our head, which is that of fighting on Vraks (= Verdun area in France WWI): a brown, muddy planet with rain all the time and the Korps have to work their way through several feet deep mud. But I think not every planet is like Vraks, like not every warzone in WWI was in France. They had battles in the snow covered tops of the Alps in Austria and Italy, sandy coast and stone hills of Turkey and so on...
    I dont want to have ordinary Krieg Korps, I have seen enough mud so far, even on my old Cadians. I chose for my bases a world full of rock, stone, slate, which splinters if it is hit and gravel. You might ask: okay, but why would this be a toxic world? The planet also has jungles and woods, which inhabit toxic spores...and the enemy is hiding in big fortresses, cut out of the hilltops and mountains. I think this is a ideal playground for a Krieg army!

    But you are right, thanks for the hint, I really forgot something. I think I will add some of this to the boots instead of mud: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Modellin...-GREY-ASH.html


    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Roulette View Post
    These are looking very nice, keep up the painting war! I always liked the "washed out" coloring for krieg models. Are you using primarily washes?
    thank you Sir! yes, only washes, except silver and gold colors of course. maybe I will post some pictures where you can see the steps of each layer of washes. it takes at least three layers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Roulette View Post
    I also love the junior officer. Something about krieg + powerfist is pretty awesome (it must be that increased WS4 )
    most certainly! and since powerswords are only AP 3, powerfists are the IG´s only weapons against Terminator armour in close combat.

    here is a first sample of a Grenadier (dust will be added soon of course):


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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    this is how I do the paint work shown on my second Junior officer:

    1. step:
    After using skill white primer, I apply Agrax earthshade to the coat and mask. The boots, weapons, armour and helmet received a treatment with the old Badab black, which I can use better for my purposes, it is more liquid. Nuln oil has a too dark color after applying it twice. Waywatcher green glaze for the plasma psitol. Note that in the beginning I am using just a little bit of wash, mostly thin layers. I let the number of layers do the work, not the amount of wash. the aquila and the end of the power sword are painted Seraphim sepia and the leather belts with Reikland fleshshade.
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    2. step:
    I paint a second layer of agrax only on the coat, not on the mask. I want to keep the mask brighter, so the face is morce catchy.
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    3. step:
    Applying a second layer of badab black on all armour parts, boots and pants again.
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    4. step:
    Highlighting details with secon layer (Waywatcher green, seraphim sepia and reikland)
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    5. step:
    now the armour, helemt, weapons and boots get their third layer of badab black, but not the pants. the coat is washed with a thin layer of badab to make it darker.
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    6. step:
    taking a sponge with some chainmail and chip metal on the armour parts for the use look. nice leather effects can be achieved by washing them with reikland, sepia, reikland and sepia again. finish it with agrax for a darker tone.
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    I hope you can see the single steps. I tried with the camera...

    btw, here is my first vehicle for the armoured battlegroup, one of my favourites

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    Hello,

    I really like your color scheme, it's different from all of the other schemes you see with dark brown,green,grey. I hope to see more of your tanks too!

    Peace,
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart11 View Post
    Hello,

    I really like your color scheme, it's different from all of the other schemes you see with dark brown,green,grey. I hope to see more of your tanks too!
    Thank you!

    My Forgeworld order arrived today and I started with the Bombard/Collossus.
    Oh my, that mortar is the biggest gun I have ever seen in 40k , the Commissar looks so tiny next to it! I already love it and I just started!
    Here is a pic to give:

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment - new: tank pics!

    So gentlemen!

    after a busy and productive weekend, I finished my Company Command Squad:

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    and here is one of my tanks I painted earlier. it was my first try with oil paints and spirits, I hope it is okay. it is a lot of fun painting tanks this way. The Armoured battlegroup has a different color scheme to my siege regiment, of course.
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    I will insert the pictures of the finished units in the army list (1st page), so you can see the organisation and the appearance.

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    update: here is the to-do picture. I´ll be busy for a while painting these guys. the tanks are not final, some details will be added soon. if I finished building my Thunderbolt, I will take a picture of both regiments.

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    and I updated the wip list at the top.
    Last edited by Watchmaster; 27-07-2012 at 15:35.

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    That sure is some cool tanks!
    I love the ryza pattern russes but sadly I can`t justify the resources required to get some for myself. I rather use them on more kriegsmen ^^
    And the tanks next to the stormblade look so cute, like kittens next to their mother.
    I can`t wait to see the thunderbolt build and painted, the idea of planes in dogfights over the soldiers fighting and dying in the trenches have a special place in my heart.
    Keep up the good work, and you good sir are subbed
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    Nice idea with the Commissar-General! I might have to borrow that idea.

    Any updates?
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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    so...no, Krieg did not disappear. I just finished my final exams and now back in action! sorry for letting you guys wait!
    I wasn´t completely idle this time. I did some Krieg stuff besides my Thousand Sons, Blood Pact and Firestorm Armada Fleets.

    I build my Thunderbolt Heavy Fighter and gave it its first paint. weathering ist still missing though. It is like this since september, so I want to get it finished! I did the Aquila with masking tape only (the tape is still on the other wing)

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    and...I did a bit conversion to my Aegis Defense Line...I wanted it to look more like a Krieg line, so I added some goodies :-) it is not finished yet

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    I hope you like them. I am about to finish washing a lot of infantry, so more pics are about to come!

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    some new pictures about finished miniatuers, mostly officers and special weapons

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    Re: 113th Krieg Armoured Battlegroup and 262nd Krieg Siege Regiment

    yes, yes !
    I like them a lot !!
    again you made a great use of your chosen color sheme.
    This is a Dark Age, a Bloody age, an age of Daemons and of Sorcery. It is an age of Battle and Death, and of the world´s ending. Amidst all of the Fire, Flame and Fury it is a time, too, of Mighty Heroes, of Bold Deeds and Great Courage. William King
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