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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    He suggested the guy was frustrated because the rule opposed him (disohonorable), not because they are hard to follow (NOT what I was saying is dishonorable).

    I personally agree that "the merry-go-round style of rules" is frustrating.

    Dishonorable was a poor choice of words, but I couldn't think of a better one at the time. Less gentlemanly, maybe?
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Thanks for the clarification, I understand your point now. I must add, though, that I don't think that was the intent.

    Also I think we need to use "dishonorable" in conversations more often. It just has such strength:

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    "We have pepsi products, sir. Is that okay?"
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    No!No!No!The dude atop the shrine does not benefit from the ward save! Nor does a vampire upon his coven throne ,nor does an exalted hero of khorne benefit from cruising in a chariot blessed by Tzeentch...

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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Just to be sure, all models on chariots do share an armor save number right? I think I just read one that said the whole model has an armor save of 3+ (WoC). So this is removed if it is used by a character or the model just shares the armor save and not the ward?

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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    The chariot itself has a save, which covers the basic crew models too, but chariot-mounted characters have their own saves, boosted by the fact of being mounted, just like monster-mounted characters do.
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rose View Post
    The chariot itself has a save, which covers the basic crew models too, but chariot-mounted characters have their own saves, boosted by the fact of being mounted, just like monster-mounted characters do.
    This is correct.A mounted character receives +1 to there armour save when mounted by any means ...

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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    If arch lector is mount on war altar, is that mean any model from opposite site can nominate to attack eather AL or WAOS? If unit is in base ontact. And fight against WS of arch lector even if decide to attack WAOS. Even from 2nd flank? If that is right that will mean extra points will be necessary to spent for armour or ward save.

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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgub View Post
    If arch lector is mount on war altar, is that mean any model from opposite site can nominate to attack eather AL or WAOS? If unit is in base ontact. And fight against WS of arch lector even if decide to attack WAOS. Even from 2nd flank? If that is right that will mean extra points will be necessary to spent for armour or ward save.
    He's treated as a ridden monster.
    So you use the weaponskill of the arch lector when attacking the arch lector and the highest weaponskill of the war altar(the arch lector is never counted towards this) when attacking the war alter.
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    You mean enemy models if in base contact can nominate to attack Arch Lector or War Altar and always use weapon skills 4 of AL as WA has no stats.In case they decide to go against AL all hits will be resolved on his Toughness and any safe he has. The question is: can supporting attacks can be nominate against AL or must be resolved at WarAltar?
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgub View Post
    You mean enemy models if in base contact can nominate to attack Arch Lector or War Altar and always use weapon skills 4 of AL as WA has no stats.
    No.
    The weaponskill of the rider for a ridden monster (remember chariots follow those rules) is never used, ever when attacking the monster.
    The monster lacks a weaponskill? All attacks allocated against it auto-hit.

    The war altar of sigmar has a weaponskill of 3, the steeds pulling it.
    This will of course need an FAQ to officially solve it as the war altar has no crew and the chariot rules state that the crew defend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgub View Post
    The question is: can supporting attacks can be nominate against AL or must be resolved at WarAltar?
    You can do one of three things:
    1. Allocate all attacks on the Arch Lector
    2. Allocate all attacks on the War Alter
    3. Allocate some attacks on the Arch Lector and the rest on the War Altar

    This is covered in the rules for supporting attacks in the rulebook, so you really should know this as it's one of the more basic rules of the game.
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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    So, what happens here peeps?

    ArchLector is killed in combat, attacking unit wins the combat (wounds + ranks + banner). Does the War Altar take a Break test on Stubborn Ld5 (that of the steeds)?

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    Re: Empire - Pope Mobile - Does AL get the Ward Save ?

    Quote Originally Posted by laribold View Post
    So, what happens here peeps?

    ArchLector is killed in combat, attacking unit wins the combat (wounds + ranks + banner). Does the War Altar take a Break test on Stubborn Ld5 (that of the steeds)?
    That's exactly what happens.
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