Most Sucsessful Invasion in warhammer

[Urgat]

True. Still, I'm sure it was during 5th ed I read it first, that's one of the things that made me want to make an all-goblin army.

[warboss6820]

Mmh, I think I'd rather me a human against 10 cockroaches than an elf against 10 skavens regardless
There was a very funny short story in the 5th ed rulebook (or the battle book, one of the two) illustrating just the error of your ways, excepted you have to swap skavens with goblins (hence why I remember it ): So you have that High Elf Lord, and there's a goblin warboss in front of him. The HE looks down at the goblin with contempt, and states something among the lines of "you vermin, I'd wipe the floor with your sorry face, but you wound't be worthy of touching the world I walk upon" (he doesn't say that at all, but the meaning is the same ). The goblin just raises a finger and burns the HE down to a crisp with his magic ring, then cackles and walks away.
Moral of the story, if you give flamethrowers to a coackroach (and skavens happen to have plenty of these), you're toast

I need the 5th edition book just so i can show that to my elf playimg friend. Hehehehe gobbos.

[Arnizipal]

True. Still, I'm sure it was during 5th ed I read it first, that's one of the things that made me want to make an all-goblin army.

I've been playing since 5th, and the 6th edition main rule book is where that story came from.
I'm 100% sure of this.

[Urgat]

I'm going back to my parents place this weekend, I'll have a week to check leasurely, and if I'm wrong, well, that's that

[Hawkkf]

While it may not be the grandest scale invasion, my vote for most successful would be when the Slann Mage-Priest Mazdumandi sacked a dark elf city. As I recall the dark elves had raided and a few had gotten away with some precious artefacts. Mazdumandi raises the host of Hexaotl and marches north and sacks the dark elf city holding the items, retieves the artefacts, and heads home. He then raises a mountain range to prevent any dark elves form easily following. So they sack a dark elf city (which can't be that easy as high elves fail at it from time to time), achieve the goal, and get away without direct reprecussion. That just a successful invasion.

[Arnizipal]

I'm going back to my parents place this weekend, I'll have a week to check leasurely, and if I'm wrong, well, that's that

Since I haven't heard back from you, I was right wasn't I?

While it may not be the grandest scale invasion, my vote for most successful would be when the Slann Mage-Priest Mazdumandi sacked a dark elf city. As I recall the dark elves had raided and a few had gotten away with some precious artefacts. Mazdumandi raises the host of Hexaotl and marches north and sacks the dark elf city holding the items, retieves the artefacts, and heads home. He then raises a mountain range to prevent any dark elves form easily following. So they sack a dark elf city (which can't be that easy as high elves fail at it from time to time), achieve the goal, and get away without direct reprecussion. That just a successful invasion.

Are you sure he destroyed a city?
Dark Elves only have six cities so losing one would be a major event, but I haven't read about this any of the Dark Elf background.

[N810]

Scacked doesn't mean destroyed, it's more like damaged an looted. Razed means destroyed.

But either way, to was a good battle.

[Arnizipal]

Either way, it's never been mentioned in any Dark Elf material...

[Fear Ghoul]

Even if the city was destroyed it could have just been rebuilt like Tor Anlec.

[The bearded one]

Or Nuln

[theJ]

Either way, it's never been mentioned in any Dark Elf material...

You expect them to admit they got their asses handed to them by frikkin' lizards? And were then completely outdone magicwise by a frog? At which point they can't even climb a mountain?

[LotlBotl]

It's been repeatedly mentioned in the Lizardmen Army Books, although the Star Stela was retrieved by someone else at a different battle with 7th Edition.

Anyways, nominating Gorbad Ironclaw and Vlad von Carnstein.

[Arnizipal]

You expect them to admit they got their asses handed to them by frikkin' lizards? And were then completely outdone magicwise by a frog? At which point they can't even climb a mountain?

Yes. After all they got all the other humiliating enemy victories in their timeline, including the Withc Kings losing repeatedly and Eltharion succesful raid on Naggaroth.

It's been repeatedly mentioned in the Lizardmen Army Books, although the Star Stela was retrieved by someone else at a different battle with 7th Edition.

Could you provide me with a date on the event? Maybe I've overlooked it in the timeline...

[smileyface]

I suppose the dwarf invasion of the high elf colonies during the war of vengeance could count too. Dwarf holds lost: 0, elf colonies permantly lost: all of them.

The eventual trackrecord heavily favours the dwarfs (0 holds lost, 0 high kings lost, 0 crowns lost vs unspecified # of cities, 1 phoenix king, 1 phoenix crown ), it did take them about 400 years, and it is never specified howmany colonies or cities of the elves were destroyed. We only know of 2, really (Tor Alessi and Athel Maraya).

It's not a successful invasion for two reasons:
1) They broke their own strength doing it, which is why the subsequent greenskin and daemon wars broke their empire.
2) They didn't manage to actually hold any of the ground they fought over. It went to humans.

The phrase "pyrrhic victory" is perfect here.

[Drasanil]

1) They broke their own strength doing it, which is why the subsequent greenskin and daemon wars broke their empire.

What broke them more than anything was the subsequent destruction of the underway and the attached devastation which came when the Slann decided to 'readjust' the world. Yes the War of the Beard weakened them, but it wasn't their death knell.

2) They didn't manage to actually hold any of the ground they fought over. It went to humans.

IIRC, the dwarves weren't interested in holding the ground they got from the high elves first of all and secondly humans didn't really settle those areas in a meaningful fashion to much later.

The phrase "pyrrhic victory" is perfect here.

It was a war fought over an insult, who ever won would still loose, because it should have never happened in the first place.

[smileyface]

It was a war fought over an insult, who ever won would still loose, because it should have never happened in the first place.

Yes. Hence, not a successful invasion. Technically they won, but they didn't gain anything from it.

[grumbaki]

Yes. Hence, not a successful invasion. Technically they won, but they didn't gain anything from it.

If you think this way, then you just don't understand how a dwarf thinks. An insult was avenged, a grudge was struck. That is reason enough to go to war.

[LotlBotl]

Yes. After all they got all the other humiliating enemy victories in their timeline, including the Withc Kings losing repeatedly and Eltharion succesful raid on Naggaroth.

They only admit to losing against High Elves.

They've never written down any of the annoyances that the orcs and goblins give them, they certainly aren't going into detail about the overseas slaver raids that get wiped out (especially in Lustria), and, well, they're elves. Some things are just too much humiliation to swallow.

Could you provide me with a date on the event? Maybe I've overlooked it in the timeline...

7th Edition has Lord Tepec-Inzi of Itza marching into Naggaroth, intercepting a Dark Elf Fleet at the mouth of the Witch Sea, and taking back the Star Stela of Quetli. Circa 315 on the timeline. No elven survivors.

Earlier editions actually had Mazdamundi going to Clar Karond at about the same time, for the same reason. He also raises the Grey Guardian mountains to stop the elves from taking the land route across the isthmus. In 7th edition, he raises the mountains in 1004 as part of a prophecy.

[The bearded one]

In 7th edition, he raises the mountains in 1004 as part of a prophecy.

Really? I remember an armybook saying he raised them to prevent pursuit from a dark elf army. Isn't this in the lizardmen armybook anymore? Or maybe in the dark elf one?

[LotlBotl]

Really? I remember an armybook saying he raised them to prevent pursuit from a dark elf army. Isn't this in the lizardmen armybook anymore? Or maybe in the dark elf one?

It was like that in previous editions. But in 7th, he raises the mountains because the plaques say to do so.

It also stops a Dark Elf invasion right in its tracks by accident.

It is kinda jarring in light of all of the other writing in the army book where Mazdamundi has been transformed into a very GET OUT GET OUT JUST GET OUT frog about anyone visiting Lustria, and is perfectly happy crushing cities with earthquakes, dropping armies down fault lines, and dictating to the rest of the Slann about what the forces of order must do.

Looking back, it really is unfortunate that the Slann have become so isolationist. Worst is how they are not nearly as curious about the outside world and children of the old ones as they used to be. The same can be said about the skinks in the fluff where they are increasingly becoming unfeeling robots instead of the mentally agile and curious little guys that they used to be during 5th edition, like in Marco Columbo's story.