wood elfs vs daemons?

[thelawl]

I'm in an escalation league, our last game was at 750 points our next game is going to be 1000 points. My opponent for the next round is a daemon player, i have never played against daemons or at this low of point value with wood elfs. I know his 750 list but wont know his 1000 point list till i face him. how the escalation league works is that you retain everything from your previous list and add the models or items or units to match the increase in points.

daemons list 750 points:

Herald of Khorne (Firestorm blade, Armor of khorne) 140
14xBloodletters (CS) 192
5xFlamers 175
20xPink Horrors 240
Total: 747

My WE list 750 points:

we noble (hoda, charmed shield ) -110pts
dryads x8 -96pts
dryads x8 -96pts
gg x10(musician,sb,flame banner) -148pts
gg x10(musician) -126pts
gg x10 -120pts
total: 746

what should i spend my 250 points on to beat his daemons in the 1000pt game? what should i expect from daemons?

p.s. any questions of rules of escalation league just post below, I know it can be confusing!

[Fruhauf]

Treekin. 'Nuff said. Potentially swap the 2x8 dryads into 1x10 or 1x12 and just go for extra Treekin.

[sugnathefeeble]

Forest spirets are not the way too go as your ward save will not work go glade gaurds and wardancers

[tmarichards]

As long as there isn't a greater daemon, Daemons are a pretty good match up for Wood Elves- T3 with a 5++ is perfect for Glade Guard to shoot. Focus fire on the Bloodletters and get rid of them, and if you whittle them down to only a few left Dryads can run in and smash them up- they won't have their ward save as sugnathefeeble pointed out, but you go first with more attacks and wound on 3s so you can take a healthy chunk out of the unit or finish off the last 3-4 models.

14 Bloodletters will die in 2-3 phases at long range, so deal with them quickly. Send the Dryads after his Horrors and snipe his herald out, and take the flamers on at short range. Saving the HoDA for them would be a good idea I think, if left unchecked they can do huge amounts of damage.

[thelawl]

but what do you guys think he will bring with the addition on 250 points? and how should i deal with the fact i have no wizard and he has auto lvl 2?

[tmarichards]

For the extra points, he could increase his Bloodletter block or he could bring some fiends or any of a number of options, without knowing the play it's difficult to say. Fortunately, it shouldn't change the overall dynamic too much.

At such low points levels I think you're best off going with as much army as possible and not bothering with magic. With regards to his level 2, I would suggest applying the hard counter to everything in the game- kill it.

[Plexi]

You have two concerns in that matchup that jump out at me;

1- You have no caster, he has some horrors, not a huge problem, but easily fixed with the addition of a level 1 or 2 with a DMS.

2- Flamers will tear you up. If you want to whittle down his bloodletters you're gonna need to focus some fire on those flamers or they will get on your flank and rip your dryad units down.

His additional 250 could even possibly be another unit of flamers with some bulk added to his existing units (that's probably what I would do).

[thelawl]

what does dms stand for?

[tmarichards]

Dispel Magic Scroll would be my guess

[Graxy]

Since there are flamers around, I wouldn't advise bringing tree kin. Even if you HoDa them, they're still going to put a lovely dent in that fairly expensive unit.

As for what he's adding, it looks like he'll probably bring the BL block up to 19/20, add a fiend for chaff purposes and possibly a herald of tzeentch. What can you do to counter that? Well to start, I'd probably add a level 1 with dispel scroll just to at leat try to slow down his magic. In your phase, it won't be doing muchbut at least it gives you some defense. then probably spend the rest of your points on an eagle and some glade guard. The basic plan, as already said, is shoot the bloodletters, hit the horrors with dryads. The eagle really is there as a last resort if 2/3 turns shooting can't take them out, just to redirect them away and give another round of shooting, which will hopefully be enough.

[thelawl]

i play the match yesterday and won, fortunately we rolled watchtower for the game. it lasted 6 turns and i completely destroyed his army. i ended up taking a lvl 3 spellweaver with stone of rebirth as my 250 points and it helped a lot. i want to thank you all for your advice.

[Daniel36]

Wow... Congrats. I always have the hardest time against Daemons. Then again, I do suck at the game.