in the rule book it states that skirmishers are in a loose formation and are spaced "roughly 1/2" apart."
is this supposed to be a guide line or purely for aesthetics? (could i make them 1" apart?)
also can i rotate my skirmishers 90 degrees and have the 1/2" measure from corner to corner? since they are all still facing the same way and 1/2" apart just in diamond formation.
You need a 1/2 inch gap between the models, though I admit I mostly eye ball this and don't try to measure it exactly. There is no diamond formation for skirmishers though. You are loosely ranked but you still have to be in ranks just with a 1/2 inch gap between the models instead of them touching each other.
A Normal Unit will look like this
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A Skirmished Unit should looks like this
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Last edited by Blkc57; 23-07-2012 at 08:18.
no i mean the models will still be like this:
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but image them all turned 90 degrees so the length across is increased
So you mean like this?
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Which is fine as long as you maintain the 1/2 inch gap between each model.
I think he means rotating each model individually, to increase footprint of the unit.
P.77 describes how skirmishers are to be deployed. This describes the dispersed formation, and I see no room for improvisation like the OP suggests.
Last edited by LiddellHart; 23-07-2012 at 10:10.
well it only says they have to face the same way, whih they will if you rotate them like that.
Yeah I noticed that. Made me smile, but still.
That single sentence fits your creative idea, the paragraph as a whole certainly not.
But it IS a creative idea though
Last edited by LiddellHart; 23-07-2012 at 10:02.
Huh? I don't really understand what you are trying to do. I'm not sure exactly what this final unit looks like that you have some abnormally large footprint.
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and measuring from the side corners gives you a slightly larger footprint. Not a biggie, but still not legal.
The 1/2" is probably for aestethics, for visual recognition ("Oho! Skirmishers!") and for special game effects (template effects have a lower potential for number of models hit, increased unit footprint with regards to hindering movement or shooting of other troops). As far as I am concerned they could have simply stuck skirmishers together in a standard formation and applied the dilluted template effect as a rule, e.g: To represent their "dispersed formation" template hits against Skirmishers are discounted on a 4+ (or a 5+, or whatever). I imagine this would solve a few problems with skirmishers.Originally Posted by thelawl
Since the 1/2" rule actually has an effect on the game you should attempt to stick to that distance: I guess the proper way to handle this is to imply set them up as close to 1/2" apart as you can estimate and if your opponent calls you on it you measure it out to as close to 1/2" as possible.
But then why does it say "roughly"? Well, with a compact regiment, some models are only in corner-to-corner contact with each other. If the unit disperses exactly 0,50" apart then the diagonal distance is approximately 0,71". And if the unit contains a model with a larger compatible base footprint then it can quikly become impossible for all models to each maintain the proper distance to each other:
As to wether it is possible to skew the facing of the unit: In a normal unit models are arranged in compact and neat ranks and files, which effectively precludes any form of skewing. A unit of Skirmishers only granted an exception to the normal unit formation in that the models must be some distance apart from each other: No allowances are made for skewing the models.
So, that's a "No."
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was just trying to screw wm over more is you do the diamond formation shown by liddellhart and space them 21mm apart a small template only hits 1 guy.
thanks for the clarifying though, much appreciated.
on thinking to by cheats not lulz on the weird gone out of the window.
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Who fires templates at skirmishes anyway? Would this have any impact in a game other than mark you as TFG?
I think you need to stick very close the the 1/2 inch. Setting up the unit, meassureing a few distances and placing the rest on eye meassurments should be fine. If you your eye meassurements are poor, your opponent will ask you to meassure a few more.
On the other hand, your opponent cannot call you out on having to be mathematically 1/2 inch apart when the rules say roughly. Use actual templates to figure out who is hit.
I think when the rules say roughly you should not try abuse it and your opponent should be a bit generous and then it will all be fine.
Small units of skirmishers may fit entirely under even the small template.
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