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    Monolith weapons

    1) Gauss flux arcs;

    What are their firing arcs?

    The Necron FAQ states: "As it is mounted on the hull it will have a 45 degree arc of fire."

    My friend I play with states that because they are "hull mounted" and swivel, he gets an extra 45 degrees from the point they stop swiveling in both directions, or 180 degrees total. I'm not buying it just yet...

    2) Eternity gate;

    I was told it does not have to roll to hit, which I agreed with, and took my strength tests. But there were some other incidents that came up that I wanted more clarification on. Can it only pull non vehicles through? Can it pull models out of close combat? Can it hit flyers? Where do you measure its d6 range from? Can it fire regardless of the Ordnance weapon firing?

    If someone could please tell me what info I need to know about these, and also where I can read this info it would be greatly appreciated! Id like to be better prepared for our next match

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    The gate is a weapon, so it must be fired. Measure to the portal. The unit must be able to take a Strength test, so it can affect walkers too. It follows all of the other restrictions that other weapons have.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    It must be fired but it does not roll to hit.
    It cannot affect anything which does not take characteristic tests.
    It works exactly as the book describes it: enemy models within D6" of the gate - whether the models are in combat or not does not matter - because it does not target units, it affects all enemy models in its range.
    As for ordnance - the gate's a shooting attack, so no can do. BUT it CAN be used to bring forth a unit in the movement phase if the necron player intends on using the ordnance weapon.

    And I don't get that thing in the FAQ about hull-mounted but they made them pivotable - GW doesn't know their own models, rules, or anything as usual.
    So ok.. 45 degree arc but I can pivot it 90 degree anyway, so that's 135 degree (not 180, they mean 45 total so its 22.5 each side + 90 degree pivot of the gun bit for 135 total)
    Last edited by Kalandros; 31-07-2012 at 08:00.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    The flux arcs, if you assembled the monolith well, are able to rotate. I believe the have a little more than 90° rotation but lets say 90 plus 45° (22,5° for each side) and you get about 135°. It's very common for 2 arcs to fire at the same target and depending on the target even 3 of them.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    The Flayer array look more like sponsor weapons. I've always read Hull mounted weapons to be weapons poking out of the front plate, such as the heavy bolter on the Chimeira Chassis or the vindicator Demolisher cannon.

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    The Gauss Flux Arc have a 90 degree field of fire because they can articulate - this might not be strictest RAW but it's obvious to see what they model is capapble of.

    As for the Gate, it effects models with a S characteristic irrespective of whether they're engaged or otherwise. However, since it doesn't use a ballistic skill to hit, it cannot be snapfired. Therefore, no targeting FMCs or fire the gate in the same turn you use the particle whip.
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    Re: Monolith weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel View Post
    The Gauss Flux Arc have a 90 degree field of fire because they can articulate - this might not be strictest RAW but it's obvious to see what they model is capapble of.
    Its still not very clear. Some claim its 90 degrees only because the model allows 90 degree movement, and others claim 135 because of the "hull mounted" FAQ.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    IMO, it is either 45 degrees if your cannons are glued in place, or it is 90 degrees if they are able to move.

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    I made that mistake. Thought that 45° was a given for all weapons. But no it's only for hull mounted. So its 90° for the arcs.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    Don't understand why some people take it that it has a 135° firing arc... The FAQ says 45° and anyone can clearly see that 45 =/= 135. Never once before have I've seen the suggestion that you add the stated angle to the models already current arc of fire.

    But I'm a good sport and will allow players to use the models real arc of fire instead of the 45° arc ;-)

    Serously though, the model has clearly swiveable cannons that defines its arc of fire, dunno why they FAQ'd it to 45° when the models shows 90°ish.
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    Re: Monolith weapons

    What faq are you refering to?
    Last edited by copper.talos; 31-07-2012 at 17:43.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    I don't think the arc would count as hull-mounted weapon since they clearly swivel on their own axis, giving each a 90 degree coverage.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldoriath View Post
    Don't understand why some people take it that it has a 135° firing arc... The FAQ says 45° and anyone can clearly see that 45 =/= 135. Never once before have I've seen the suggestion that you add the stated angle to the models already current arc of fire.

    But I'm a good sport and will allow players to use the models real arc of fire instead of the 45° arc ;-)

    Serously though, the model has clearly swiveable cannons that defines its arc of fire, dunno why they FAQ'd it to 45° when the models shows 90°ish.
    I don't think the Faq covers the Monolith weapon.
    I think the bit you are refering to is
    Q: What is the arc on the Gauss Flayer array (p53)
    Which is the side weapon on the two Arks

    The Monolith has gauss flux arcs.

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    Hah, I didn't even bother to check the FAQ, well that solves it, its still 90 degrees as its always been for the Monolith.

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    Re: Monolith weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BooTMGSG View Post
    I don't think the Faq covers the Monolith weapon.
    I think the bit you are refering to is

    Which is the side weapon on the two Arks

    The Monolith has gauss flux arcs.
    Well that would make more sense

    Thanks for clearing that up for me! 90 degrees it is!

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