i was looking at what to add to my demons with the new allies rules and i think an entire nurgle army, plague marines and the Epidemius would be the greatest thing, giving the plague marines a 3+ feel no pain would be great. any thoughts on the combo
It's a lot harder to make tally with nurgle units than you think. You also have to consider that Epi must deepstrike in, and if you don't get your preferred wave, then that means rolling for reserves to get him in.
You'll also need a good bunker for him because if he dies you lose your bonus. He's virtually required to at least deploy in a squad of plaguebearers so just remember they can't go to ground when the shooting starts.
If it goes right, it's one of the great advantages to taking a single mark army. But as Konovalev says, if it goes wrong, it can sometimes feel like he's a waste of points. And you do need to hide him somewhere too.
But if you have a Death Guard force, him and a unit of plaguebearers are the obvious choice for allies because if it does pay off, you get so many bonuses it's unreal. That tally really can change the game in your favour. A Great Unclean one will (somewhat ironically) clean house in a lot of combat situations, but Epidemius has the ability to turn your whole force into killing machines - if it goes right for you.
Oh, and if you ever feel like being a real git with Epidemius and you feel like fielding Daemons with some ork allies, there is particularly nasty (and brilliant at the same time) trick that has been doing the rounds recently on these forums. Not sure if it made it here but it's certainly on Dakka and on Bols. It's worth searching out just for its cunning and evil. Best use of Epidemius ever.
Ahem, Nurglings.
Those things can potentially get a 2+ wound and ignore armour save once the tally is high enough. They're also cheap and resonably fast and are the only swarm that has Eternal Warrior and sports 5+ invulnerable save to boot.
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I've played mono nurgle since daemons arrived and I can tell you tally isn't that hard anymore. In 5th ed it proved very difficult against MEQ but now with 6th ed, things have become much easier. Honestly I don't think there is really a right or wrong way to play mono nurgle daemons either. Protecting epidemius isn't too bad. Give him a 10-15 man PB squad as a body guard. If you want to spend the money and points, buy a skyshield landing pad. Stick it in your deployment zone and plop epidemius and his retinue down. No scatter turn 1 and 4+ inv save once furled the turn after. GUO works well with tally using breath and/or aura. With allies you are only limited by your creativity of using CSM units with mark of nurgle. Even though 20+ is a wonderous thing, you may not always hit it against MEQ quick enough to matter. Ultimately your primary goal is to get the 3+ FNP and play the game of attrition. 20+ is just a mop-up against MEQ at that point.
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That Tally Orks trick is straight nasty.
If you want to stay mono Nurgle I would consider using Blight Drones from CD+ Allied CSM along with Nurgle Havocs as a great way to up the tally very quickly. Nurgle Decimator Engines with Twin Butcher Cannons are also very nice, but equally pricey. For 260 points you get 8 S8 AP4 shots at 36" on a 13,12,11 platform that is very hard to kill, and can possibly get back up after it is wrecked. For the ones that start on the field I would consider a Heavy Conversion Beamer.
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If I had to do a list I would go CSM base. Typhus is awesome, as are CSM terminators (nurgle marked of course). Squads of Plague marines, and then some Havoc squads (also Marked). Then add Epi, a squad of plague bearers to join, and or some Nurglings. I would then look at a Winged Daemon Prince to start. It's a flying MC, which can help. Add in winds of chaos to help rack up a tally, and you are set.
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What is this ork trick?
Take a unit of Grots as an ally. They are 'Desperate Allies' meaning that Nurgles Rot will affect them as if they were an enemy. The pathetic T2 of the Grots means you can quite happily land and kill 20 of them right off the bat, instantly shooting the Tally up to the top and making the rest of your army absolute nails.
If someone did that to me i would punch them in the face
Why?
Its funny and incredibly fluffy.
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It doesn't actually work, so it's really a trick on the player.
Take grots as allies, take Epidemius. Try to use Aura of Decay on them.
Whoops. Aura is a ranged attack and requires an enemy to shoot at. You can't shoot at allies, even if they're desperate allies or allies of convenience. Nothing happens and you look embarrassed and don't do it again.
you have experience with this then...
It still works if you run Epi and his grots up within 6" of at least one enemy, but it's not the turn 1 or 2 tallybomb everyone makes it out to be.
I play an all Plaguemarine army and was think of using Epidemius to lead my allies, buff my marines & annoy my gaming buddies! Can anyone answer a couple of questions for me?
I've got two Blight drones, do they count as Deamons of Nurgle for the purpose of kills towards the tally? They can be attached to either my marine or allied list, does it make any difference how I use them?
And I'm building a conversion for Epidemius as I'm not keen on the model. Does he go on a terminator size base or a monster base? I'm guessing it's the latter.
Cheers!
You'll want to check with your TO on the Blight Drones. Anyone with a lick of common sense (uh oh) would agree it's a Nurgle unit, but it doesn't specifically say "Nurgle" and you can bet you'll run into someone who wants to exploit that.
Epidemius is on a MC base (60mm).
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It does say Nurgle in its unit entry
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My mistake. I'd still make sure the TO will rule in your favor, though. People are arguing the silliest of things.
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Thanks guys. It's called Blight Drone of Nurgle & it has Daemon in its entry so I guess I should be ok. It's only for friendly games as they tend not to allow FW in organised events.
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Hmmm... I might look into this tonight...
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