In the Rogue Trader list you can select an Endeavour class cruiser - does this mean you can only select the Endeavour or is there a way of getting the Endurance and Defiant variants?
In the Rogue Trader list you can select an Endeavour class cruiser - does this mean you can only select the Endeavour or is there a way of getting the Endurance and Defiant variants?
My EPIC and BFG Blog: EPIC ADDICTION
You can bring them as a reserve vessel. (1 per 3 non reserve vessels)
Hmm that doesnt really help, my proposed fleet is dinky :P
Is there a reason for only the Endeavour allowed?
My EPIC and BFG Blog: EPIC ADDICTION
My speculation is that the rogue trader rules are deliberately written such that it is difficult (or cost inneffective) to add lances and AC to your force if you only use rogue trader vessels, thus forcing Rogue Trader fleets to utilize their ally/xenos ship rules.Originally Posted by Novrain
The rules let you bring in little lancey xenos/ally escorts pretty easy but I guess AC are harder at low point fleets.
Something I was considering trying was escort carrier squadrons. I'm pretty sure the RT cargo ship +1 for reload ordenance rolls would counter the escort carrier penalty. I was thinking I'd put two carriers with one or two RT cargo ships and then fill out the rest of the squadron with 'el cheapo 10 point transport ships.
The net result is 4 AC for less cost than other fleets' 4 ac carriers, and with the cheap ablative transpoirt ships to take some hits. I haven't tried it though.
Last edited by sunnyside; 02-08-2012 at 12:12.
That was my thought for ac as well. RT are supposed to have limited amounts of ordnance/ lances. The idea as previously stated is that if required they would have an escort from the IN or some other source. Remember these guys dont do stand up fights, theyre merchants.
By the way, does anybody think that using escort carriers would work? By 1500 points you can take an allied cruiser to get some AC on the board, and I guess you could probably also work in some demiurge. But the escort carrier method would be cheaper.
What would the leadership be if you included rogue trader cargo ship? I don't remember seeing the -Ld thing in the armada rules that you have for general transports, you are paying a premium for those escort carriers, and they have a special -1 for reloading ordinance. Would that cancel out with the RT cargo ship and so you'd just have normal leadership for the squadron?
The RT cargo ship does not cancel out the -1 for escort carriers. Despite their name escort carriers are not escorts they are transports. Pg. 90 FAQ2010
It is also stated that they give the plus one to reload because they are keeping the escorts supplied with torpedoes. Pg. 87 FAQ2010.
Two groups of two escort carriers with standard transports as fodder should be able to provide enough fighters to cover the fleet in typical engagements. 150 points for 4 launch capacity with a decent buffer is seriously cheap. Adding in a Q ship might work well also, of course thats a good chunk of points then. The key to this would seem to be keeping the carriers close enough to the fleet that they can provide cap but far enough back that they dont present an easy target. Using them to support a carrier brought in from another list should work in larger games as the larger carrier should draw more flak. You need to be careful about your ld order when using these tho as their leadership to reload is going to be between 4 and 7 (base of 6-9 minus one for being a transport and minus an additional one for reload ordinance). I would put their orders bear the end of the list and try to get it when your receiving a +1 for enemy on special orders.
Last edited by andrewchristlieb; 03-08-2012 at 03:37.
Hurm. That's a hard reload. Now, certainly with Imperial ships those guys should be able to provide launch capacity even if they just sit there "loaded" letting you make the reload checks at a better leadership. And I don't know if it's banned in RAW, but I imagine it would be considered unsporty to use their launch capacity simply as part of the fleet total launch capacity and put out more xeno attack craft.
Figured I'd throw this in here instead of starting a new thread.
My question is about the Inquisition rules. Am I reading the "using vessles of the Inquisition" section correctly in that one can add an inquisitor and his retinue to a Rogue Trader Cruiser in a Rogue Trader fleet.
Or does it mean that an Inquisitor will only set foot on an RT cruiser if it has been taken as part of an IN, SM, or Admech fleetlist per the various rules for taking RT cruisers in those lists.
I would say you can take an Inquisitor in a Rogue Trader fleet, aboard a Rogue Trader cruiser or aboard a Rogue Trader cruiser that has been taken as part of another fleet. "an Inquisitor and his retinue may be embarked on a single Rogue Trader cruiser." pg52 2010 Compendium.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote