Most boring army to play against?

[gorblud]

Hey

I read a thread on a Dwarf forum where someone asked if Dwarves were the most boring army to play against, and people started discussing why/why not.

So I'm making this thread to see which army seems to be the most boring army to play against, out of every available army

State your army and tell us why you think it is boring to play against?

I have to say I dislike dwarves most, because most of the big and scary things I bring get shot down on turn 1 or 2 by cannons, units get smashed to pieces by grudge throwers, magic is being dispelled, and one unit gets their movement halved by the anvil of doom! When I finally get to the other side, there are big blocks of tough and often steadfast/stubborn infantry.

As a vampire counts player who needs at least one wizard and the general within 12" of a unit to be able to march it's just horrible. 2 to 3 or even 4 turns of being shot down and having almost every spell dispelled, then fighting bigger and stronger units in close combat is just great!

[Gradek]

For me, it's the mirror match (regardless of what army I am playing). I just don't find it all that fun to play against the same army (for both fluff and gaming reasons).

[Dark Aly]

Most boring IMHO =/= the hardest to beat. I agree with dwarfs (although they are one of my oldest armies) but because thay miss out on so much of the game. Dwarf armies only consist of infantry and warmachines and that is all; no cavalry, warbeasts, monsters or monstrous cavalry. Therefore what the dwarfs do have has to be fairly good at what is does- so their infantry and warmachines are solid and hit hard which appears to be your issue with them.

Next we have manouverability. Dwarfs don't have this. With no M value greater than 3" (not counting Gyros) dwarfs are often better off not moving (scenario permitting) and giving their machines longer to soften up their opponent, this makes for a rather dull but sound tactic.

Magic- again none. Another phase of the game dwarfs miss out entirely and we can almost make our opponent miss out on it too- not much fun to be had here either.

All in all Dwarfs because they miss too much of the game.

[Dark Aly]

For me, it's the mirror match (regardless of what army I am playing). I just don't find it all that fun to play against the same army (for both fluff and gaming reasons).

O&Gs mirror and empire mirror matches are great fun.

sorry for double post

[Lorcryst]

I'm a Night Goblin, Nurgle-DoC and Mixed-WoC player, and Dwarves are my bane too ... even more so when the deployment rules of the scenario allows them to castle at the far end of the board, leaving me with the wondefull prospect of marching under fire for 4 turns.

BUT !

I don't think that Dwarves are the real problem, dwarven gunlines are the biggest pain ... a "Strollaz" dwarf army that comes to you and gets stuck in close combat against my hordes in turn two is a lot more fun !

[Hicks]

For me it's DE. Everything they have is rock solid, so you really have to watch out for everything in the army. Also, it seems that as soon a I fail a dispell, one of my units just disapears

One of my army is Dwarfs and I can't even begin to tell you how I hate the frikkin assassin that pops my warmachines as if they were balloons.

[Rakariel]

If i think about it i cant really say that there ever was an army that was not fun to play against. Me and my opponents have a healthy mix of armies and we mostly choose very fluffy lists, so am often battling very strange combinations of troops. Always great fun

[DaemonReign]

Yeah they're all equally fun to face off against as far as I am concerned. I don't even mind the Dwarf gunlines - but sadly my Dwarf opponant does so I rarely get the chance to play against them. haha

[gorblud]

Of course there are different sorts of lists, and fighting dwarves once in a while could certainly be fun. However, my friend whom I play the most is playing dwarves, which means I can never really try any monsters, chariots or lone characters, they just die without doing anything.

Once in a while we play a really small tourney where we are 4 friends, then I can bring some things I usually don't. Hoping I don't have to face the dwarves so I can try out some stuff that would normally die on turn 1 or 2.

[Vipoid]

For me, it's the mirror match (regardless of what army I am playing). I just don't find it all that fun to play against the same army (for both fluff and gaming reasons).

I generally agree here. The only exception would be if someone was using the same army, but a drastically different build. Still prefer to play against different armies though.

Aside from that, I think it depends on both the build and the frequency of use. Even a list that was interesting to play can quickly become dull if it's the only one you see.

I will say that Dwarves can be one of the least interesting armies to play against. A gunline army might be an interesting change the first time you play against it, but after a few games, the novelty quickly wears off. Furthermore, they can be kitted to have very strong dispelling, so that you're lucky to get even a single spell off.

[Baraqiel]

Dwarf gunline is just so dull to play against.

[Rakariel]

I know what you mean gorblud, one of my friends who i play against alot mostly chooses empire. Even if he comes with a fluffy list i can be certain there will be atleast 1 cannon in there. Am still going with a list that feels fun at that moment even if there are monsters etc. in it and they could get shot easily. I have lost often cause of this, but not always. If you can pull a win off even tho you clearly have a disadvantage, its all the sweeter

[Lord Squidar]

Dwarfs are definately no.1 boring army to play against, I still love them though, my first and best army.

Otherwise, 2 other boring armies for me, both that are a result of people not using their armies properly. 1. are high elf players who get obsessed with shooting and sit back and shoot at you with piddly little arrows and high magic spells. Seriously you have swordmasters and white lions, go crush some skulls in close combat please, you are GOOD AT IT!

2. Vampire counts players who put their vamp in a throw away skellie unit in the back and raise stuff. You realise that vamps are insane in combat AND can still cast spells. Give him a magic weapon or skills and he is the most sick thing in two aspects of the game.

[macejase]

I think all armies can be fun to play against, some are a lot more challenging to beat than others (also depending a lot on what you are using) but that doesn't make them boring as such. I for one would happily play against any army I would be more put off by the player, for example I would find the game boring if they were determined to win and not just have a fun game. However I do have several least favourite armies based purely on their concept, fluff, model ranges etc (Dwarfs and Bretonnia, and to some extent Beasts of Chaos), for the most part this just means I would never play these armies myself but I would happily play against them, I guess it could get boring after some time if that was all I had to play against though... Hope that answers your question somewhat.

[Djekar]

Dwarves, hands down. Aside from all the stuff that people have said - they are extra annoying for being the only army still using the free dispel dice mechanic. They need it, that's true - but woe betide the person who doesn't have ways of generating extra dice vs. the dwarves - it's not the dwarf fault, but it's a pretty outdated mechanic that encourages the concept of winning in the list building phase.

[Gaius Marius]

One trick pony armies. For the opponent, the game comes down to negating the one trick... or not. 80 high elves in a folding Tower, with 2 Eagles (5 characters). Giant Mega unit of Undead Grave guard and 4-5 characters in it, plus 2 little throw away units. An all Troll Chaos Warriors list... worked great unless you brought along a flaming banner. Dwarf gunline that doesn't move all game. And so on. Doesn't mater what the 'trick' is specifically, but the fact that an army relies on this one trick or 'tactic' is simply dull. I have faced all of the above examples, and the first time was a problem to be solved, but in subsequent encounters would be simple re-fighting of the original battle, or be problem already solved.
Good question.

[calnen]

If no-one's said it yet, Teclis.

Otherwise, Dwarves. Which is a shame, as they're my favourite army. But they badly need a redo (and either a movement or a magic phase).

[Maoriboy007]

Chosenstar twin warshrine gateway list, sucks the life out of the game like nothing else. Dwarves can be pretty bad though, playing TKs against them was especially painful.

[Confessor_Atol]

Shooty dwafs or the vampire summon spam. I have a dwarf army built around scouting and infiltration with help of miners and the anvil. I try not to lump myself in with the static dwarf lists.

[Sexiest_hero]

Warshrine armies, followed by dwarfs. We have have 3 dwarf players here, and soon as you get to the guns, the concede, and ask for a rematch, over and over and over.