Most boring army to play against?

[Cragum]

Teclis. My friend has never made a list without him which means I never really get any of my spells off.................. (He's the only one at the shop I go to that plays fantasy other then me)

Either A) Buy your friend a new hero model or B) Buy a new friend...

[Vipoid]

This thread is v interesting, I quite agree that facing gunlines can be a little boring, but would some say also challenging with certain armies? Particularly footslogging WOC, also the emphasis is that shooting is the prime factor behind making these games boring? To me this is curious as a few weeks ago I put a poll on general and shooting came out as the LEAST important of all the phases in determining the outcome of a game.....odd. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...r-Won-and-Lost

With regard to the poll, I imagine most people consider shooting to be the least important phase, because not many armies have shooting in any decent amount. It doesn't mean that a battle *can't* be lost in the shooting phase - just that it doesn't happen very often.

I'm surprised dwarf gunlines are getting such a heavy mention here. I would've thought in the age of deathstar units with their endless steadfast ranks and all their BSB re-rerolls, the shooting phase would hardly dent such armies . Any army is only as boring as the player using them: hate the player not the army! Our local dwarf player is a whirling ball of unpredictable madness, he has even pulled off turn 1 charges as his longbeards catapulted 15" across the board into some unfortunately placed elven cavalry.

Here's the thing - a boring army isn't always the same as an unbeatable army. I've yet to lose a game against Dwarves with my VCs, but that doesn't make the games I did play against them interesting.

Generally, the Dwarf player concedes as soon as I get in melee with him (and, in particular, his war machines). So, all I got to do in the game was move forwards, get shot, and roll my charge dice. Thrilling stuff.

[xxRavenxx]

If no-one's said it yet, Teclis.

This was going to be my vote too. Teclis just isn't fun. Sitting watching 30% of your army vanish each turn while you do nothing about it is very dull.

[N0th1ng c4n b34t 3lv3s]

I can't actually think of a boring army I've faced, just players.

[logan054]

Here's the thing - a boring army isn't always the same as an unbeatable army. I've yet to lose a game against Dwarves with my VCs, but that doesn't make the games I did play against them interesting.

Generally, the Dwarf player concedes as soon as I get in melee with him (and, in particular, his war machines). So, all I got to do in the game was move forwards, get shot, and roll my charge dice. Thrilling stuff.

x lots and lots, I loathe playing against dwarf players, especially with my WoC, I walk across the table, models die, I make it across, trash his units, job done, no need to really think about my game, just march forward, I honestly can't remember the last time I lost to a dwarf player, then again I can't remember the last time I played a decent one who wasn't trying to play 40k in warhammer.

[Crube]

The most 'dull' army I've faced with my Wood Elves was another Wood Elf player, with a similar play style to mine.

I ws dreading facing a Dwarf gunline, but it was actually a really entertaining game. Forced me to really concentrate on my movement, and how best to get to them... Close and hard fought draw, but a great game

[nurgle5]

Here's the thing - a boring army isn't always the same as an unbeatable army. I've yet to lose a game against Dwarves with my VCs, but that doesn't make the games I did play against them interesting.

err.. I never said that unbeatable = boring, I said that an army is only as boring as the player using them. Taking dwarfs for example: if your local dwarf players are into all this gunline, table edge hugging nonsense that makes the players boring not the army. Our local dwarf player has been using increasingly aggressive tactics since 8th ed started and he's great fun to play against.

[m1acca1551]

Doesnt matter the army, but net lists... same boring s*** even in fluff games... oh your woc khorne tribe has a bunch of chosen that worship tzeentch... fairo...

oh look at your clan skyre army wow i didnt know clan skyre would use 2 aboms...


players make an army boring... enough said

[Vipoid]

err.. I never said that unbeatable = boring, I said that an army is only as boring as the player using them.

Perhaps this wasn't your intention, but the implication of your last post was that, because dwarf fire wasn't especially powerful against large units, they should be fun to play against.

[TheDungen]

anyone else find it strange that its always most boring army to play against or most overpowered army never funniest army to play against and most balanced army.

[Vipoid]

Well, why not change that by starting threads on those topics?

[Confessor_Atol]

Teclis. My friend has never made a list without him which means I never really get any of my spells off.................. (He's the only one at the shop I go to that plays fantasy other then me)

This sounds like Warhammer hell.

[logan054]

I said that an army is only as boring as the player using them.

Could it be Dwarfs seem to attract more of the boring players? I seen it posted on here many times how dwarfs only viable tactic is to castle in the corner and hope for the best, apparantly that extra 2" movement would make all the difference and force these people to totally rethink how they play...

[nurgle5]

Perhaps this wasn't your intention, but the implication of your last post was that, because dwarf fire wasn't especially powerful against large units, they should be fun to play against.

I was being facetious, hence the smiley face, though to be fair tone is often hard to convey through written text.

[Lord Arkhibas]

I'd rather handicap my army than play boring games. That's said, I been trying to create more interesting and more effective army for WoC, that is more tactically challencing and in right hands, effective. Yes, it is easier to make mistakes with it, but one never learns if he does not try
So, idea is, that instead of having big block of warriors marching forward, i have divided my battleline in mainline and detachemts. Mainline does the killing, and usually does not fail at that, because we are warriors of chaos Detachemnts (with combination of 8 chaosknights on the other wing and 8 chaos ogres on the other) then destroy flankers. How you may ask. Well, shock unit charges in with the tread. usually they still need help, because cavalry does not like getting bogged down. This is where these 12 warriors come in, and clear up what is left. And look at that, i have my opponents flank But yes, i haven't yet tested this. Here is army composition just so you see the point.

8 CO (Chaos armour and great weapons)
12 CW (AHW)
18 CW (Halberdiers, could be chosens)
12 CW (AHW)
8 CK

Characters can be tooled up as one wishes. Battleline units should be something that does the main killing and detachments should ideally be armed with AHW.
But i just show the stradegy for you, Could it work? No more wound marker warriors for me, everything counts

[Lord Inquisitor]

I really only have an issue with Daemons armies that focus too heavily on using leadership manipulation plus Siren's Song. I always feel when fighting such armies that I have really no say in the game and don't even get to play my own army as my opponent gets to determine my movement and charges.

I was wondering how far though this thread we could get before someone mentioned the Ld bomb.

Teclis. My friend has never made a list without him which means I never really get any of my spells off.................. (He's the only one at the shop I go to that plays fantasy other then me)

A lot of people not liking Teclis. There's an easy way to cure people of their love of teclis. (1) play ogre kingdoms (2) take sniper/scout maneaters (3) see how many times they need to lose Teclis turn 1 before they stop taking him...

[Blademeister]

My buddy has a lizardman army where all he has are skinks, He kills a couple things, but nothing intense, I get in combat, and I steam roll him. Really isn't that fun to play against.

[Plexi]

WoC is the worst to play against as far as entertainment. I think a lot of people are confusing tough armies with boring armies.

[michaells]

@cragum Oh he uses another hero with teclis: a lvl 2 mage
@Confesser-Atol it is warhammer hell, makes the game really boring and unfun
@Lord Inquisitor I dont have the funds to do such things sadly, but i have thought of it

[Nubl0]

Depends on the player imo, I have played some filthy list but the guy was cool so we had a laugh.