HUGE 40k (& Hobbit) release list

[PANZERBUNNY]

Land Avenger. Do Astartes really more vehicles?
I'd love to see Termites and The Leviathan.

Cult Hybrid Upgrade. I'm doubt this is a Genestealer cult...or...is it...

[chilledenuff]

It's possible that as the list is off of a hobbit fan forum the person who shared it deleted out all the stuff that might confuse lotr fans and then posted it. still, looking forward to the eldar stuff (that other rumours state is lying in a warehouse!)

Sorry for the double post but...

Note: does not contain re-releases, non-miniature products or the miniature range with codes below 2xxx

Mayhap fantasy products start 2xxx

[Theocracity]

That is one of the things that bothers me. The last rumors we heard of Eldar came from someone who claimed to see boxes for them. Now we have a list of the same units - almost exactly - but with a note that nothing on the list is in production and won't be seen for almost a year.

Why the contradiction?

[Max_Killfactor]

I bet the Genestealer cult comes back via a character that allows guard to ally with Tyranids.

But that doesn't matter to me...

Eldar. Solitaire.

Now I really hope the world doesn't end this December, so much to look foward to.

Whoever gets fired for this, they are a legend. Heroes live forever.

[Utred]

@Theocracity: There is some debate on that earlier in the thread.

From what I saw was that the earlier debate in the thread was that it might be on another page. But the 40k and Hobbit stuff is mixed together.

It's possible that as the list is off of a hobbit fan forum the person who shared it deleted out all the stuff that might confuse lotr fans and then posted it.

It's a possible, I just can't believe they'd delete any re-cast 40k characters as well, but not the 40k stuff. I just can't can't see it as much as I want to.

But time will tell

EDIT:

Sorry for the double post but... Mayhap fantasy products start 2xxx

That to me would be a valid reason... but again, why was the list edited to not have the 2xxx? It's a great way to avoid things. Even tho all GW products don't start with those numbers as Eldargal said earlier in the thread.

[eldargal]

I wondered that myself. It does state mass production, perhaps the person who saw the boxes saw a test-run? Seems a bit of a stretch. Otherwise perhaps this sources information is somewhat out of date and some of the units have gone into production already. Or it's made up.

[Mullitron]

Nice find, to me this looks legit, it backs up rumours that harry and other reliable sources have given such as which books are being released but also combined with certain rumoured model releases such as new avatar and new greater daemon models. Makes me realise how good the choice to incorporate allies again was, allows GW to add a book or 2 with all the old school units that us older fans love whether that's sisters or genestealer cults. It gives the few fans what they want without effecting the release of the main codex.

Could be several reasons why fantasy rumours are not on there whilst keeping this information legit. To me I can imagine in an aim to sell the hobbit stuff GW won't release any fantasy models on the same month. Thus this info only showing hobbit releases the 40k during the same months but leaving the months between with the fantasy releases

[Starchild]

@Theocracity, EldarGal: If GW prints packaging well in advance then it lines up with all models being done at least a year in advance (standard GW practice).

I find it more likely that the Eldar models source saw the graphics for the boxes on one of the studio iMacs or maybe the graphic files stored on the GW network.

[ADF]

I wondered that myself. It does state mass production, perhaps the person who saw the boxes saw a test-run? Seems a bit of a stretch. Otherwise perhaps this sources information is somewhat out of date and some of the units have gone into production already. Or it's made up.

Could it be connected to the production plant in Memphis (i.i.r.c.)? Perhaps the mass production quote refers to products that are produced in the USA, and other stuff that is only produced in small quantities gets shipped from elsewhere? It would make sense if the leaked document is an internal stockkeeping thingie for the production facilities. Aditionally, it would explain why all the Hobbit stuff is there, as they would try to produce it in one location to prevent leaks (yeah, see how that turned out).

EDIT: And containing the Hobbit stuff in US facilities would allow them to go way higher on punitive damages in their NDAs, compared with GB.

[Commissar Merces]

@Theocracity, EldarGal: If GW prints packaging well in advance then it lines up with all models being done at least a year in advance (standard GW practice).

I find it more likely that the Eldar models source saw the graphics for the boxes on one of the studio iMacs or maybe the graphic files stored on the GW network.

This explanation makes the most sense to me. I have no idea how I am going to afford this next year between Dark Angels, Sisters, and plastic Storm Troopers...

[Kendo]

I have such a love/hate relationship with GW I am unsure how to cope with this release. I both want to go to my hobby area to start painting and cutting simultaneously.

[Goshawk]

I can think of a couple different reasons as to why there would be no WHFB in this list (some of them invlove a lot of speculation of course):

Perhaps whoever leaked this ran a query in GW's database system and it returned only entrys for 40k and the Hobbit. I couldn't tell you why this would be, only that it could be the way that GW has their system set up. With this person only having access to 40k and Lord of the Rings miniature ranges and release schedules. If this person was only working on projects related to the two, then it would make sense that they wouldn't have the WHFB stuff in there, as they wouldn't have been able to see it anyways.

A possible indication of product focus on the part of GW. Maybe the reason why there are no WHFB releases in the list is because GW has decided to focus on one major system at a time. So from now to December 2013 is all 40k. Then after that for a similar block of time, it is all WHFB. Then switches back to 40k etc.

It's not completely out of the realm of possibility that whoever posted this did in fact remove all the Fantasy information, but this is the least likely of reasons.

Just some thoughts onto this apperent lack of Fantasy information.

[dala_karn]

anyone want to hazard a guess that the Bloodthirster and Lord of Change will have pieces to make Skarbrand and Fateweaver respectively like the Hive Tyrant did with the Swarmlord? (exspecially if the PL does stand for Plastic)

[dienekes96]

So I know more about Fall 2013 planned releases than Fall 2012 planned releases.

Cool, I guess. There are a lot of kits mentioned that I have a great deal of interest in. I've been hoping for a bionics kit for many years. Techmarine and artificer squad? Deathwatch plastic squad...hopefully with some very unique weapons? All great news.

Eldar looked stacked, and new Ork kits are always welcome. Sadly, this unplanned rumor release may cause GW to do something silly, as opposed to be thankful for the enthusiasm this list generates.

But, as these kits are pretty far away, I'll just be excited for the near term Starter set models and the Chaos release coming pretty soon.

[MalusCalibur]

so, i start eldar and am trawling ebay for the metal aspects only to find that there will be plastics next year? d'oh!

I wouldn't worry. Given the prevalent trend to make models look godawful in the transition from metal to plastic, your metal Aspects are likely to be vastly superior to what replaces them.

[Khorneguy]

thi will be amazing if it actually happens, looks more like a wishlist to me, disguised with fancy codes.

that said, i havn't been able to get hold of the thousand sons box for a while now (rather frustrating), so that lends a little credence to it

[Starchild]

@dienekes96: Actually I want GW to overreact, as it would spare a lot of pain to my budget!

There's so much data on this thread, I just don't know what to say next, other than stating the obvious: the next two years will be the best 40k has ever had!

[Austinitor]

Why the contradiction?

No contradiction; the prior rumor was in regards to printed packaging, i.e. empty boxes.

[mrtn]

I was only talking about the 40k stuff. It's not like they can leave characters out of the Hobbit - because it has a fixed narrative, they have to produce the characters to fit. They can't look at the dwarves and say "Nah, people aren't going to like those ones - let's just do six of 'em that people really want."

40k is a different kettle of fish entirely. And although other lines can influence schedule, they wouldn't influence the models themselves. Nor will they influence lore, rules or anything else.

As I said, I'm sceptical but I look forward to seeing what happens. This should keep us going for the next few months anyway!

I thought you said it was a fake when you talked about the 40k stuff. Personally I can't see why someone would fake a 40k list and include it in a legit Hobbit leak, or alternatively fake both at once, especially including such outlandish stuff as "Radagast's Chariot / Spellfire Cart". Can anyone see any Hobbit fan wishlist for Radagast the Hippy having a Fireball Chariot?

[Austinitor]

I don't like the Land Avenger name, but I will be curious to see just what type of vehicle it is. If the model is cool (and the rules are acceptable), it is always nice to get beyond the two platforms, so to speak.