When did techmarines start painting their armour red ?
As above but librarians an blue ?
Sigsmund of the imperial fists
I may have just ha a brain fart and a 1+1=37 moment but , was he known as dorns Templar ( I know he started the Templars)
When did techmarines start painting their armour red ?
As above but librarians an blue ?
Sigsmund of the imperial fists
I may have just ha a brain fart and a 1+1=37 moment but , was he known as dorns Templar ( I know he started the Templars)
Originally Posted by Son_Of_A_Horus
Techmarines; Likely right from the start, as it is a sign of their association with Mars, and that alliance was set in place even before the great crusade set out from the solar system.
Librarians; Nothing said, though it seems likely that it comes on as they re-open the Librarius sections of the Legions now after the battle for Calth.
Sigismund... Now, there was a small fluff-text with his origin in WD (some anniversary/significant number issue) when they relesed a semi-limited edition model for the Emperors champion, ca 2000, where he was concerned over having his armour painted black for the siege of Terra, but a Chaplain telling him that it was ok to obscure his legion colours as the black signified he served the Emperor directly... but that might have been forgotten/deliberately dismissed, as he now in the Horus Heresy series already before seem to have taken up black armour (under the old rule that high-ranking marine officers are entitled to personalise their armour).
As far as we know even in M41 many Techmarines just have red helmet and the armor in chapter colors. Painted models and other artwork from GW is inconclusive on which one (full red or red helmet) is the official armour color for Techmarines.
All pre-Nikea stories about Librarians had them dressed in the colors of their respective Legions, so it must be after Calth at earliest.
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I thought the rule about specialists was that provided they had both Chapter colours and their 'specialist colour' on display they could mix the two how they liked?
Techmarines - likely right from the start given the link with Mars as said above.
Librarians - This will have to be post-Nikaea and likely late Heresy once they are reinstated. At the moment (i.e. around about the time of Calth) the Edict of Nikaea is in full force and the Librarian corps are officially disbanded, hence no special uniform.
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The "Insignium Astartes" claims that techmarines wear all red power armour (as chaplains wear black etc), and not just a red helmet.
Although this may be a bit out of date by now, since it also claims that all techmarines, irrespective of chapter, allegedly do so.
(No mention though when this started)
Would have been during the Armageddon campaign, as that's when the BT first appeared.
i'd say that its one of those things that came with the split into chapters, one of Guillmans great ideas.
Just before, it was a GW 25 anniversary model (as I looked up at gamehobby.net's exellent WD index), and the rules for him was already in the 3rd Ed Space Marine codex, as a Black Templar special character, before the Armageddon BT list made him mandatory. The BT certainly appeared before the Armageddon campaign though, they were example (and on the cover) chapter in the 3rd ed starter box, and had been there in name since the 2nd founding was first mentioned 10 years before that... They first got slightly more than just a name for being one of the chapters involved in joining Sebastian Thor's call to throw down the corrupt high Lord VanDire, in the 1997 2nd Ed sisters of battle codex.
White Dwarf 246 (UK). (Armageddon begins WD 248).
Although the Emperor's Champion featured in Codex: Space Marines (3rd ed.); and Black Templars featured in Codex: Ultramarines (2nd ed.), prior to that.
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No I think your still in date, a Techmarine would have his armour painted all red however one part normally the shoulder pad would be left in chapter colours with their symbol on it as to not offend the machine spirit inside the armour. Same reason why Deathwatch armour is not totally black
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In a WW2 discussion someone summed up British tank markings thusly: The official regulations are fairly straight forward and simple and only need a few pages to explain, but you need several books to cover all the idiosyncratic variations that British tankers actually used.
The same thing goes for marines, if you go back to the 1st edition medic article you had a generic example 'regulation battle dress' of no specified chapter, plus a dozen or so chapter specific examples none of whom followed the regulations 100%
Insignium Astartes presents the regulation schemes in all of their idealised glory. The models in the codex represent actual marines and their idiosyncratic deviations.
In a WW2 discussion someone summed up British tank markings thusly: The official regulations are fairly straight forward and simple and only need a few pages to explain, but you need several books to cover all the idiosyncratic variations that British tankers actually used.
The same thing goes for marines, if you go back to the 1st edition medic article you had a generic example 'regulation battle dress' of no specified chapter, plus a dozen or so chapter specific examples none of whom followed the regulations 100%
Insignium Astartes presents the regulation schemes in all of their idealised glory. The models in the codex represent actual marines and their idiosyncratic deviations.
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