1.5k CSM

[ShadyMonkie]

40K Army: Chaos

Hello! Recently had to dig out these spikey bastards and thought i should make a list.

HQ
Demon Prince
MoS/Wing/Lash of Submission
155pts

Elites
Chosen (10)
Rhino/Icon of Chaos Glory/2 plasma gun/2power sword/1powerfist
310pts
Chosen (10)
Rhino/Icon of Chaos Glory/2 flamer/2power sword/1powerfist
290pts

Troops
Beserker (16)
Champ-powersword/plasma pistol/2plasma pistol/Personal Icon
416pts

Thousands son (9)
Aspring sorcerer-doombolt
254pts

Heavy Support
Obli
75pts

1500pts

I never used Chosen before but i thought running two infiltrating unit will be fun to try.
As for an alternative i could thin down either beserkers/chosen equipments and oblit to get 5 terminators to deepstrike.
What do you guys think?

[Fizzy]

Too much choosen. My tip is wait for the new codex as well. It should only be a couple a weeks away if the rumours are correct.

Also plauge marines are far better now also bikers with mark of nurgle.

But all that can change within a few weeks.

[Alsiaie]

I know you already have one but I'll mention Tsons got a little better too. I used mostly PM in 5th but in the all the 6th ed games I have started taking multiple Tson units at 1850. They're mastery 2 but only get 1 power. (still has force weapon) Telepathy is pretty good for slower units and they can use any warp charge 2 power. They can't overwatch but are no longer slowed by slow and purposeful. If you have an event to go to prior to the new dex, consider taking a unit.

Lash is still a good choice. Sine you're only taking 1 HQ and only 1 oblit, lash has diminishing returns. You don't have much template wise at range that will benefit with lash. Yeah plasma, tsons and flamers count but pcannons or large blasts really make lash shine. You don't have a lot of close combat units so I'm not sure you're taking lash for the purpose of charge ranges. A lash prince is also vulnerable to a quick death only having a 5+ inv save. He is your warlord and should be given better protection. On a tactical standpoint, a MEQ army's warlord should be tough to kill. Consider a Tzeentch prince with doombolt and bolt of change/warp time and wings. He's more survivable and gains 2 warp charge counters with the mark of tzeentch. Pyromancy fits well with a tzeench DP as many of their powers are short range or benefit his stats. Take the #1 power for example. He would gain a 4+ inv save. Although he already has one, the power's save is 4+ base and then is increased to 3+ because of his mark. 2+ Str never hurts either. I've been testing some lists that utilize 5-6 telepathy spells a turn. It's pretty interesting stacking them together. The downside is they can't be cast from transports hence my change to tsons which are more resilient on foot against shooting than PM imo.

Sorry back to the core of your list. Do you see a lot of flyers? Even if you don't own a quad gun (like me), chaos still has some good alternatives. 4 autocannon havocs are still a good buy. I usually run them 8 strong. 4 ablative wounds and 4 heavy weapons to keep the cost down. You can go long fang style and just buy 5 models with 3 heavy weapons to make them really cheap. No split fire though. Dump the chosen. You can't charge from rhinos, outflank hasn't changed much and you're limited to disembarking at combat speed. A 1500 point list should have 3 troops, two being solid and a third as a back-field spare. Chaos has a hard time with this idea though while keeping point costs at a minimum. It could even be something simple as 10 CSM with a rocket launcher/autocannon, chaos glory and a plasma if you so choose.This is usually what I pick as my third troop. They get a rhino if there's spare points to give them a bunker since I don't have an aegis line.

Or you can wait a few weeks to get the new codex and not worry about anything.

[ShadyMonkie]

Truthfully, i stopped playing 40k once 5th came out, so i have never fought against flyers before.
That said, the plan for this army was to infiltrate with chosens, with their size they should be somewhat packing a punch, and while i wait for them to arrive i try to lash in some units for beserkers to charge while taking few pop shot with 1k sons.

Maybe i should cut down on chosen and add in terminator with landraider?

[Fizzy]

No Land raiders get blown up in first round what I have been seeing. Deep strike them.