Weird ASF situation

[Blkc57]

We seem to be circling around the same point over and over again jindianajonz, I absolutely understand what you are saying, I'm not sure you undersatnd what I am trying to say, in that by stating: "it is a model "with the same ability", and attacks are made simultaneously." you are in fact applying a part of the ASF rule which the ASL rule says you don't do. I guess look at it this way, if ASL and ASF are both present then imagine the words under the ASF heading have disappeared, there is a blank section where ASF used to be and under ASL all you see is the words "You now strike at initiative order." What do you now do if you come across someone with ASF? remember the words "If the model with [Always Strikes First] is fighting an enemy WITH the same ability, the Attacks are made simultaneously..." have disappeared.You glance down at page 66 and only see those words; "Strike at iniative order" under the heading where ASF and ASL used to be.

Although I agree its silly we keep doing this when obviously no one in their right mind will ever actually try to argue this and risk being punched in the belly by an angry dwarf. I guess we do it to enjoy the wonderful vagaries of English, oh why can't we all just cut to the chase and speak German.

[jindianajonz]

But what about the other guy's ASF? He still has to check to see if his opponent has ASF!

Incidentally, if you want a great and amusing book on the English language, check out Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue" and "Made In America". It talks about the way English is both superior and inferior to other languages, in ways that even an illiterate engineer like myself can understand and find amusing. And if you want a great book about the history of science, check out Bill Bryon's "A Complete History of Nearly Everything". In fact, just read everything Bill Bryson has ever written. It's all awesome.

[Blkc57]

I suppose, but for the other guy to factor in his opponent's ASF he would have to apply the rule to the character. In any case a goat comes along and eats page 66 out of both books, SO THERE!

In a completely tangential turn of events, why would some one open up a bakery and not sell cookies? If all they intend to do is sell birthday cakes why on earth do they need a store front. I am very bitter about not getting my cookies.

[Jagosaja]

Ah, but when another guy wants to open a bakery there and sees a sign "bakery" on a shop next to him, will he wonder if that is a competition regardless if there are any actual cookies inside there?

[T10]

In fact, just read everything Bill Bryson has ever written. It's all awesome.

Are you Bill Bryson?

-T10

[jindianajonz]

Are you Bill Bryson?

-T10

I can only dream...

[Sheena Easton]

When a British recording artist thats sung with Prince tells you your wrong, I think its a safe bet you've made a mistake in your reasoning

This is true.

[HurrDurr]

a strange situation occurred to me and my friend the other day. I had a vampire with quickblood and great weapon, he had a dark elf lord with asf banner in the unit. Now, since my vampire had asf and asl rules, he strikes by initiative. but since he retains asf rule nevertheless, he also strikes at the same time with the dark elf lord which also has asf. Had it been that the dark elf lord didn't have asf, he would have the precedence in striking and would have gone before me due to his higher initiative value. In other words, with asf he would strike later than without asf.

Am i playing this right? If i am, this sounds just wrong.

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo, you're not a high elf.