FW newsletter DEIMOS PATTERN PREDATOR INFERNUS

[Bold_or_Stupid]

Well it has been long established that the traitors had the more upto date equipment. The Demios is the older design...

[Erazmus_M_Wattle]

Yeah but in the long war with dwindling resources you'd think they'd be capable of stealing a few and fixing them up! Right?

[Skullking]

The only thing on an Infernus Vulkan would improve would be the HF sponsons if you took them.

Vulkan doesn't affect Flamestorms ( because it's not a HF), and I have no reason to believe he'd affect the Magna Melta either (because it's not an MM).

Perhaps they meant the 'original' Vulkan, the primarch himself? But, I could be wrong.

This really does seem like a salamanders specific variant (not just because of the paint job), perhaps it's meant to coincide with the rumored Salies codex FW was going to do? The melta cannon does seem like something the Mandies would slap onto a predator to make it their own. I agree that it should have the option of multi-melta sponsons as well.

In regards to this being a rip off of the Baal pred, I agree, but I think the fluff states the situation well. I've always thought the BA had things that would have seemed more appropriate in other chapters, it's just those other chapters had never been quite so detailed until recently. The flame based pred, and infernus pistols make sense for the salamanders, adding 'fast' to all vehicles seems like something the iron hands would do, and I feel the raven guard should really be aloud to use storm ' RAVENS', but I digress.

I use my salamanders as vanilla marines, BA, DA, BT, and even grey knights. Saves me having to paint up a bunch of marines for each army, and I can add a bit of spice to other armies concepts (for instance, instead of a chalice of blood, my sanginuary priests (whom I call, bearers of the flame), carry large torches).

[Panther Al]

A couple of questions on Executioner (which would also apply to Infernus when released):

1) What does the kit contain? On FW website it mentions resin and plastic parts. What exactly are they? Are they a plastic Rhino or a Predator kit?

2) Most important: Has anyone tried to convert a FW's Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner (and soon Infernus) on GW's Mark IIc Predator / Rhino hull? Photos please?

Thank you in advance!

Not sure on those exact kits, but I did pick up the first Deimos Pattern Pred, and what it contained was basically a plastic Rhino, with resin turret, weapons, hull roof, and hull sides - not to mention a passel of fiddly bits. A fairly easy build, with the resin swaps making for easy assembly.

Now, I haven't converted any of the pred variants, but I have converted the FW Land Raider IIb into a redeemer, and it wasn't too difficult.

[Gryps]

Not sure on those exact kits, but I did pick up the first Deimos Pattern Pred, and what it contained was basically a plastic Rhino, with resin turret, weapons, hull roof, and hull sides - not to mention a passel of fiddly bits. A fairly easy build, with the resin swaps making for easy assembly.
Now, I haven't converted any of the pred variants, but I have converted the FW Land Raider IIb into a redeemer, and it wasn't too difficult.

Thank you for the kind reply!
So, the Forgeworld Predator kits contain a plastic GW Rhino with enough resin parts to transform them to a Predator.

And, I suppose, to convert a FW's Executioner or an Infernus to GW's Mark IIc would in fact need some plastic Predator parts (hull turret and side guns) in addition to Rhino's hull. Is that correct?

As for your Land Raider IIb Redeemer, I would be glad to see some pictures! Keep up the good work!

[xxRavenxx]

Was anyone else surprised that the decal on its turret was so badly applied? Its a professionally painted tank, I'm shocked they'd do such a bad job on one transfer.

[Atia]

Toadius80[/B]]Strange how its available to all loyal marines but not BA, bearing in mind its basically just a Baal class with an additional option.
Being a BA player I'm finding it a commen thing with FW of late, take our kit, boost it and don't allow us to use it.

BA don't use it, cause every rhino chassis tank was upgraided with the baal predator chassis (f. e. they are faster). SO, Blood Angels don't use any deimos pattern chassis ...

[Sgt John Keel]

BA don't use it, cause every rhino chassis tank was upgraided with the baal predator chassis (f. e. they are faster). SO, Blood Angels don't use any deimos pattern chassis ...

Except they can use the Executioner. Even with the Heavy Conversion Beamer, which is conspicuously absent from the BA Contemptor.

[Lars Porsenna]

Was anyone else surprised that the decal on its turret was so badly applied? Its a professionally painted tank, I'm shocked they'd do such a bad job on one transfer.

Which decal are we talking about? The right-hand side decal (looking from the front of the turret) you can see the decal edges, but it doesn't appear wrinkled or silvered. The left-hand decal is actually better applied IMHO; I cannot see the decal edges. Unless you are talking about the patchy appearance? If so, I think that was a deliberate effort to weather or "distress" the decal. I sometimes do similar things with models...

Damon.

[Erazmus_M_Wattle]

The decal on the left side if the turret looks like at has been applied onto a big splodge of varnish but it hasn't been tidied up afterwards.

[anselminus]

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Hi there,

In this week’s newsletter we’re turning up the heat (as there’s a distinct lack of summer in the UK) and releasing the Deimos Pattern Predator Infernus for pre-order. Also, with some of the Forge World team currently at GenCon Indy in the US, we thought we’d take the opportunity to remind you of some of the other events we’ll be attending around the world over the next few weeks.

Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Infernus
The Deimos Pattern Predator Infernus is an ancient pattern of Predator believed to date back to the hallowed days of the Great Crusade, which has now largely been replaced by the Land Raider Redeemer in many Chapters. The Crimson Fists, Fire Lords and Subjugators, among others, still value its close-range firepower when combating such xenos hordes as Orks, and in particular it is seeing resurgence amongst those Chapters confronting the Tyranid menace.

Certain ancient data sources speculate that the Predator Infernus was an attempt to replicate the Baal Predator STC stubbornly held by the honoured Blood Angels and their successors, and the same conjectural sources imply the superiority of this latter design in terms of speed, armour and armament. The Machine Cult of Mars’ gall at the Blood Angels’ refusal to release this precious relic is widely known, and so the Infernus boasts a fearsome armament in the form of a turret-mounted Flamestorm cannon, often replaced with the anti-armour potency of a Magna-melta, a devastating weapon originally intended for void-war boarding actions. Regardless of turret loadout, the Infernus is usually additionally equipped with sponson-mounted heavy bolters or heavy flamers.

The Deimos Pattern Predator Infernus, designed by Will Hayes, is a detailed resin and plastic complete kit that contains two different turret weapon options and two different sets of sponson weapons.Experimental rules for this powerful vehicle can be downloaded from the Forge World website, and it is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 31st August.

Forge World Events News
Friday 31st August to Sunday 2nd September is PAX Prime, at the Washington State Convention Centre in Seattle, USA. This is the first time that we’ve been to this incredible event, and again we will be joining Games Workshop and Black Library with our range of resin kits, books and modelling supplies, and this year’s Event Only models as well. We’re looking forward to seeing you there.

Games Day Australia and Games Day UK Reservations Now Being Taken
Sunday 9th September is Games Day Australia, at the Australian Technology Park in Sydney, and we will be journeying down under with Mark Bedford from our studio design team.

Meanwhile Sunday 23rd September is Games Day UK at the NEC in Birmingham, our biggest event of the year. We’ll be bringing you more information about our presence at this amazing event in the next few weeks. Our entire studio team will be in attendance along with lavish displays of both new and work-in-progress artwork and models, as well as with several of our immense display tables.

We’ll also have a vast sales stand containing a massive selection of our range of resin kits, books and modelling supplies, including our Event Only models and maybe even a few cheeky pre-release kits in limited numbers.

We’re now taking reservation orders for both Games Day UK and Australia, and a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we will have the exact products that you want, packed and waiting for you to collect. Games Day UK and Games Day Australia reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.

To place a reservation order for Games Day UK, just call the Forge World customer service team on 0115 900 4995 between 9am - 6pm Monday to Friday, or 9am - 5pm on Saturday. We’ll need your name, a contact e-mail address and a full list of the items you wish to order, and you’ll need the card you wish to use for payment to hand as well.

To place a reservation order for Games Day Australia, please contact GW Australia customer service on +61 (0)2 9829 6111, or visit your local Hobby Centre, or e-mail AU.Hobbyservice@gwplc.com with any queries, and please note that we need to receive your reservation orders by Monday 20th August.

GW Australia will take your name and a contact e-mail address along with the details of the kits you wish to order, as well as processing your payment there and then.

For both Games Days we will send you a confirmation e-mail listing your order number in the week before the event. This is your proof of payment, and you must bring this with you to the event to collect your reservation.

Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World

[Infidel]

It's a bit like a Devildog (which is 130ish points with multimelta) but:

* Not fast
* +1 front armour, -1 Side armour
* 18" range vs. 24" on the DD
* Large blast vs. Small blast on the DD
* Sponson options.

The large blast thing in 6th is pretty bonkers.

You need to be within 9 to make use of the melta rule, which means it is possible (albeit highly unlikely) for the blast to scatter back onto the tank itself.

[SniffleSocks]

The redeemer conversion seems more interesting than this bad predator to my mind... keep us updated.