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    point value of models in Dark Vengeance

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    I'm sitting here with my new Dark Vengeance set, and I have realised that there are no point value listed for the Helbrute, but more importantly neither is there a pointvalue listed for chaos cultist. Since none of them is in the current CSM codex I cannot use them in games other than the starter set. What would you set as pts value for cultists? I'm thinking of 4pts each, since they are similar to guardsmen, with a worse save, no orders, and smaller acces to speciel weapons. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

    the new chaos codex will tell you when it is released more than likely. Though for now your points value seems adequate and id be happy with that.

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

    Seems about right, but don't forget to add some points for the special weapons and unit leaders if you use them. I'd say maybe +10 for the champion (if he has a higher Ld) and +5 for each weapon.
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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

    It's either a monumental mistake from GW, or a monumental hint that the new CSM codex will be here Real Soon.

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

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    It's either a monumental mistake from GW, or a monumental hint that the new CSM codex will be here Real Soon.
    I can guarantee that I'm not the only one who expects the former and hopes for the latter. In the meantime, house rules will have to do.

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

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    Seems about right, but don't forget to add some points for the special weapons and unit leaders if you use them. I'd say maybe +10 for the champion (if he has a higher Ld) and +5 for each weapon.
    If the champ cost 10 points that would make the cultists cost the same as a 10 man guardsmen squad and also the same price as a 10 man warrior acolyte squad with Bolters.

    Cultists at the moment without any special rules are clearly inferior to both, I’d personally think that the Cultist Champion would be free, 5 points for the weapons does sound fair though.

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

    Really, you don't take a look in the news & rumours section?
    CC cultist are 55 for ten including the leader and the flamer. 10 Shooting cultists are 65 points with the stubber and the leader.

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    Re: point value of models in Dark Vengeance

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    I'm sitting here with my new Dark Vengeance set, and I have realised that there are no point value listed for the Helbrute, but more importantly neither is there a pointvalue listed for chaos cultist. Since none of them is in the current CSM codex I cannot use them in games other than the starter set. What would you set as pts value for cultists? I'm thinking of 4pts each, since they are similar to guardsmen, with a worse save, no orders, and smaller acces to speciel weapons. What are your thoughts on this?
    The Helbrute should be points valued somewhere in the area of a Chaos Dreadnought, as that's what Chaos dreadnoughts are called now.

    Pazuzu has roughly the correct cost for cultists.
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