Warriors of Chaos Rumours II

[envy]

Why is it the guy who sculpts the Seeker mounts clearly doesn't know how people actually sit on horse like creatures? They're all about to fall right off.

[Odin]

Yep- ordered both DV boxset and new CSM wave from them- both times excellent service and quick delivery. Both Byron and Greg have been really friendly and very helpful- am using them again for this month's releases.

Cheers

James

Great, thanks! Will order my stuff there then. Should save myself enough money to get Valkia as a bonus model!

[Barghest]

If you are in the UK, try http://www.elementgames.co.uk/all-new-releases

Alas, I'm in the states.

[decker_cky]

My problem with the warshrine is that it looks so 2D (unless you view it from an angle):

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I don't understand why they made the icon so unnecessary tall. Ok I know why, to give it more presence on the battlefield, but I feel something more compact would have looked more brutal. And they should have made three carriers instead of two, now there is a huge gap between the two mutants. Or used slaves or marauders to carry the shrine.

Most redeeming feature I've seen about the warshrine is that with very little work, you could make two warshrines from the kit. Cut the actual shrine into the front, and the back. Add some wheels. Put the horror looking statue on one part and the huge icon on the other part. Have a troll pulling each part from the front. Need to add a sorceror to that, but it really looks like most everything you need to make two warshrines is in the kit.

I'd also cut down the spikey circles from the sides, as they draw attention away from the other details.

[TheDungen]

The point being that though there are very few hard and fast rules in the Warhammer cosmology, one of them seems to be that only the living can ascend to daemonhood. Or in other words Valkia can now no longer become a daemon, much less already be one.

There are no rules when it comes to chaos, just guidelines. even a vampire could ascend to daemonhood, he have no really good reason to however since he's already immortal and it'd mean somehow scattering the magic that keep his souls from being released into the realm of chaos. But its possible. As long as the soul exists you can ascend. And since we've seen non living things (trees and rock and stuff) becoming living by magic i would say that rule can be broken as well.

[decker_cky]

I want to make a model for a tree that was brought to life, died, was resurrected, and subsequently gained daemonhood!

[Tuttivillus]

I want to make a model for a tree that was brought to life, died, was resurrected, and subsequently gained daemonhood!

hot piece of charcoal from Your grill would do

[byrothegyro]

Chaos Space Marines also got some new models in Finecast. I wouldn't expect all the characters, especially Special Characters, to be plasticized unless it can be done as a part of a generic model (ref. Karl Franz).

I didn't know some of the new CSM models were finecast.

So, the last year and a half of new models in finecast didn't worry you?

I assumed the last year and a half of finecast was just a transition from using metal and plastic to using just plastic. CSM and now these models are the first NEW models done in finecast. Until now they've cast new models in plastic, and cast existing metal models in finecast. I just don't see why they couldn't cast Festus, Scyla, and Valkia in plastic. It seems like they have been able to cast models about as detailed as them in plastic before so I don't see the necessity for finecast.

[lbecks]

I didn't know some of the new CSM models were finecast.



I assumed the last year and a half of finecast was just a transition from using metal and plastic to using just plastic. CSM and now these models are the first NEW models done in finecast. Until now they've cast new models in plastic, and cast existing metal models in finecast. I just don't see why they couldn't cast Festus, Scyla, and Valkia in plastic. It seems like they have been able to cast models about as detailed as them in plastic before so I don't see the necessity for finecast.

They've been doing finecast only stuff since finecast was released last year. Plastic has a different process than metal or finecast. Longer lead time, cost of a steel mold, certain undercut limitations (which can be overcome by just cutting a plastic model into more pieces), and more advanced engineering are required for a plastic model.

[byrothegyro]

ok cool to know thanks.

[logan054]

Great, thanks! Will order my stuff there then. Should save myself enough money to get Valkia as a bonus model!

http://www.4tk.co.uk/store/category/12/67/Chaos/

I tend to get my stuff from here, new chaos stuff is 25% off

[LordKrell]

http://www.4tk.co.uk/store/category/12/67/Chaos/

I tend to get my stuff from here, new chaos stuff is 25% off

Do they deliver only to the UK? Or EU too?

[logan054]

I think so, not sure tbh.

4tkgaming@btconnect.com

Send them a email, the guy who runs it (andy) is a very nice guy, actually brought the models to me in person.

[Tokamak]

Why is it the guy who sculpts the Seeker mounts clearly doesn't know how people actually sit on horse like creatures? They're all about to fall right off.

Look at the way their saddles are strapped on. It's fine, there's no other way you can sit on those things.

[Silvertongue]

I didn't know some of the new CSM models were finecast.
I assumed the last year and a half of finecast was just a transition from using metal and plastic to using just plastic. CSM and now these models are the first NEW models done in finecast. Until now they've cast new models in plastic, and cast existing metal models in finecast. I just don't see why they couldn't cast Festus, Scyla, and Valkia in plastic. It seems like they have been able to cast models about as detailed as them in plastic before so I don't see the necessity for finecast.

The DE Haemonculus, Grotesques and Wracks would like a word with you. They have been releasing FC minis (not metal-to-finecast, but finecast proper) for quite some time now. The plan, if I understand correctly, is to have all troops and characters in plastic, and only some SCs and stuff in FC.

[Przemcio251]

Heh since we know what will we get on this saturday the qestion remains when we will get the new book? And what will we get with it...
From current rumors:
- Van Horstman on Dragon
- Dragon Ogres
- Forsaken/Choosen

[VenomBlood]

- Forsaken/Choosen

Last time my gut predicted only an arrival of Corrupters of Apoc, hence now I'm afraid there won't be any combined kit, those based on Hastings rumours (there should be posts recorded by posts history I believe) and my personal gutsence... oh well whatever...

[AaaBattery]

I really like all the new modles. *Waites for the angry mob to attack*

[Jericho]

I convert just about everything I paint, so I'm never too worried about these things.

@AaaBattery: I like most of the stuff too

Festus and Valkia look great, Skullcrushers are exactly as advertised (Chaos Knights on Juggers), the Marauder cav are a bit nicer than the other ones, which I already liked (can't say I like their rules tho), and the War Shrine isn't terrible. I'd certainly convert it somewhat, I feel it needs chainmail hanging down by the sides in the way the Sphynx kit has it, but nothing too major. Probably leave the chaos spiderwebs off the side. Warriors are big boys, they don't need a handrail for safety

[loveless]

Having seen a better picture, Festus is pretty spectacular. I hate the random tentacle, but the rest of the model is delightful. The paintjob on the Nurgling assistant is a bit cartoonish as well, but I don't think it distracts from the sculpt (other than really not looking like any other Nurgling/Nurgle Daemon). He's a good diorama piece - probably not that solid for a gaming piece, though.