The Hordes vs. Warmachine thread is starting to get a little hairy with baseless claims & other such acts. The one thing that was challenged & I found an interesting exercise was a call for Proof. I think I figured out how.
A buddy of mine writes a few things for No Quarter Magazine which is where this idea originated from in a round-about way.
I'll post a general problem from a Warmachine stance & people are encouraged to give a Hordes answer to it.
Heres the rules, we are useing "averages" on dice. Average of 2D6 is 7, Average of 3D6 is 11 & so forth.
No "Perfect positions" measuring. That means Haley has a 14" control area, a Deathripper on the edge of the TB line can get to her in melee, but you rarely ever get the chance to start on the very edge at a perfect 14" from her & people will usually have something blocking her. It's just basically not assuming your opponent isn't an idiot.
I ask that we keep this intelligent & civil. Posts of "X will R0xx0r that problem!!!!111!!one!!!11" are neither well thought out or intelligent, they are simple opinions. We are talking tactics.
If the problem isn't solved with a single model, you are welcome to introduce others (please keep it realistic, Lilith doesn't run 3 Carniveans in a 300 pointer.) There are many models that will need back up, but also realize that the more models you use, the less likely your attack is to work in the real world.
First problem, we'll start fairly easy but still challenging.The Butcher with Iron Flesh cast on himself & hoarding the rest of his FOC. (DEF 17, ARM 23. 20 Health points) With a Bokur Bodyguard standing at the Butchers 2 o' clock 1" ahead of Butcher.(remember, 2" reach on both.) Thats 101 points in models.
Who has a solouton?