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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    I agree, hence my confusion at BA having two blinged up codex units released and not something more BA unique to replace / offset the loss of codex units marines got this edition

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerwerewolf View Post
    According to the new White Dwarf, BA's can take Grav Weapons - which makes me happy. That does open up the oppitunity for them to have Centurions, though I dont think that Centurions really fit the Asthetic.
    Based on what? You can have gravs without having centurions.

    Gravs for BA was clear from the moment they showed BA tacticals with one. They ain't going to release miniature without rules

    Quote Originally Posted by lordbong13 View Post
    I agree, hence my confusion at BA having two blinged up codex units released and not something more BA unique to replace / offset the loss of codex units marines got this edition
    Something you never had isn't exactly a loss...
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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerwerewolf View Post
    According to the new White Dwarf, BA's can take Grav Weapons - which makes me happy. That does open up the oppitunity for them to have Centurions, though I dont think that Centurions really fit the Asthetic.
    I would like centurions too although I agree that access to grav weapons alone does not guarantee that.

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    Im just hoping that the BA's get the other marine flyer - Not just the Stormraven.
    You can at least take the Stormwing formation if you really want Storm Talons. Not ideal as it lacks flexibility but at least taking them as a formation means they won't use up FA slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryAngel View Post
    That's great !! However, I meant, and I think you know this, an actual multi part Tac Squad box with all the options that entails. As well as their own dread box, that apparently every group of marines gets with their own book as well. Unless your saying because DA are in Dark Vengeance with a tac squad that should handle all their tactical squad needs while everyone else needs their own Tac Squad box, at which point I completely disagree.
    I don't feel that way, but I bet GW does :/
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    Even if we do not get all the codex options in the BA codex, a simple option is to ally a detachment of Blood Drinkers (who are a codex-adherent chapter) to you Blood Angels to include any units you do not get natively. OK there will be a Troop tax involved but if you have your heart set on Centurions or Thunderfire cannons, it remains a useful option.

    The other thing that has occurred to me is the possible role of Sanguinary Priests. If FC does turn out to be an army-wide USR (as supported by the leaked Sanguinary Guard image) what could they bring to the table instead. Assuming they still generate FNP, one possible option that would be fitting in Fleet. The original rules for the Grail way back in 2nd ed was an increase in movement. Fleet would be a good way of representing that in the current meta and would certainly be useful in making sure the BAs get to grips with their foes.
    The is Force split, unbalanced. The Dark side is at war with the Light. Only the Chosen One can wield the power of both. To know the peace of the Light without becoming frozen in rigid rules like the Jedi. To channel the righteous anger of the Dark side to fight injustice without being consumed by rage and evil like the Sith.

    That is the destiny of the Chosen One. Not to bring triumph to one side of the Force but to bring both into balance so they are no longer in conflict.

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    When can we expect WD pics? Later today or tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tneva82 View Post
    So if BA has access to all that codex SM has and then some more what's the point of fielding regular codex list then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karhedron View Post
    Even if we do not get all the codex options in the BA codex, a simple option is to ally a detachment of Blood Drinkers (who are a codex-adherent chapter) to you Blood Angels to include any units you do not get natively. OK there will be a Troop tax involved but if you have your heart set on Centurions or Thunderfire cannons, it remains a useful option.

    The other thing that has occurred to me is the possible role of Sanguinary Priests. If FC does turn out to be an army-wide USR (as supported by the leaked Sanguinary Guard image) what could they bring to the table instead. Assuming they still generate FNP, one possible option that would be fitting in Fleet. The original rules for the Grail way back in 2nd ed was an increase in movement. Fleet would be a good way of representing that in the current meta and would certainly be useful in making sure the BAs get to grips with their foes.
    I'd love the grail to give the initiative bonus like old FC rule did.
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    I'd love for the sanguinary priest to give a 6+ FNP
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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryAngel View Post
    I'd love for the sanguinary priest to give a 6+ FNP
    Then what's the point when honour guard have apothecaries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryAngel View Post
    I'd love for the sanguinary priest to give a 6+ FNP
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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Hi guys, I got already my copy of the new codex! Feel free to ask me any questions!!

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Is Dantes axe unwieldy, stats on sanguinary priest ? Any new units ?

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    What does chalice do ?

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    Dantes Axe is +2F, AP2, mastercraft and NOT unwieldy.

    BTW he id now eternal warrior

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    Chalice gives +1WS

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    As a longtime blood angel player I couldn't be more excited with the new stuff. I am totally happy that the Blood Angels are not getting some new cartoony unit. I think if the BA got a thunderwolf equivalent, centurions (terrible models) or a sled riding blood angel I would be super bummed out. The new terminators and tactical squads are very tasteful.

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Some changes are:

    - Death Company is now elite as DC dreadnought

    - Predator Baal is Heavy Support

    - Librarian Dreadnought is HQ

    - Mephiston is HQ and IC

    - All units have now Furious Charge

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    Thanks for the info.

    Has mephistons stats changed ?.

    Sanguinary guard any better ?

    Warlord traits ?

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    For Dantes axe does +2f mean strength ?

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    Re: Blood Angels vs. Tyranids: Seige of Baal Box Set

    What are the troop choices ?

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