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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    I have been to two tournaments in the last month playing Calandra and PDoomy.

    First one I lucked out game 1 with Calandra vs PSkarre. Dark Guidance makes Star Crossed irrelevant so I was relying on the infantry clearing of the list. Managed to get a critical freeze with the Winter Troll on Skarre and then set her on fire. So tempted to get a second Snow Elvis now.

    Then second round Butcher 3 and there was no terrain to slow down Butcher. Assassination loss.

    Third Round Siege and a Stormwall. My opponent thinks I thought I was in a far worse position than I was and I played foolishly giving him the game. I couldn't do enough on the Stormwall, but he's probably right as I went to try and get to Siege and fluffed it rather than slowly grind it out and hope Starcrossed and Bullet dodger kept Calandra safe.

    Final round and Runes vs EVyros. Poor positioning cost me Mulg and poor dice kept Imperatus alive. Almost pulled an assassination when the Dire Troll went into Imperatus and threw him into a Strangleholded Evryos with no focus on him. Got Evyros down to 4 boxes and then almost survived Imperatus into Pdoomy toughing 3 times, but ending up on fire.



    Second tournament this last weekend and went with the same lists again after watching lots of good games with both at the Welsh Masters.

    First round ended up with the bye but played Calandra vs Iron Mother as the game getting almost a fully tabled opponent.

    Second round was a rematch against the same Siege list that beat me last time. This time I forgot to put Bullet dodger up thinking the hill would save me as well as limited angles to shoot at her. Almost survived Siege's feat turn, but it was not to be. Must remember Bullet dodger as it would only really have cost me one fury that I'd put onto the stone.

    Third round into Kromac with Runes of War. I positioned beasts back behind walls to force reach weapons to be the only way to get to them and kept Doomshaper bunkered. I forgot to feat on my first turn, but due to positioning didn't take that much damage outside of the Krielstone and a unit of Runeshapers. Mulg took out Ghetorix, the Earthborn took on a Moon Hound and the Mauler just hung around in the zone. I feated after purifying. Mulg ends up into Kromac and it's game over.

    Fourth round was versus Saeryn with a player who had just asked what Runes does. Managed to bunker Doomshaper on Saeryn's feat turn and Janissa used her push to get the Angeluses away to get more in to protect him. Using the Runeshapers to screw up charge lanes in as well with force lock. Mulg also yoyoed thanks to protective fit which did a lot of damage to the threats on Doomshaper. In the end went 5 CP and Mulg went into Saeryn with the rest of the army clearing out all the beasts. He didn't manage to kill her first turn due to transfers and her high def. She failed to get a blast into Doomshaper, who would have transferred it, but Mulg killed her on his second time of trying with no one to transfer to anymore.

    Ended up 4th due to the SOS.

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    The preparation for ETC continues and apart from a brief day of some Menoth games I've been concentrating on just playing the two lists to get completely used to them.

    My last tournament was an 8 man SR. Lost first round by not rolling the dice quickly enough. I literally failed to kill Lucant with Calandra herself by 1 second. Second game Runes into Zaal. Assassination win though I kept being scared of Kovaas, but I forgot how many magical weapons I had.

    Third game a Runes off won by feating second. Another assasination win. I ended up coming fourth due to strength of schedule.

    Since then I have been offering up the lists for anyone to practice against. Played into a none Force Wall Kaelyssa list with Calandra which went to Asssasination. Playing against that list my concern is actually fury removal with Kaelyssa herself and Eiryss3. Keeping the Krielstone away from Eiryss is important as she could completely strip it. But I managed to press with the beasts and critical freeze with the winter again getting me a frozen Kaelyssa to target.

    Then more practice against Siege. To weather his feat it's important to either have a transfer or Bullet dodger up. Putting too much into the Krielstone is a trap that puts Calandra at risk unless I have some terrain to hide her behind.

    And last night was playing into Kreoss1. I made sure to ring Calandra with Runeshapers so that when Kreoss feated her screen would remain to protect her from assassination. I was quite lucky in how he moved his errants so they ended up clumped so that lightning from the Storm trolls could ricochet up the line nicely.

    I am very much looking forward to changing lists after this month to be able to try out PMadrak as I am looking at 2 ADR casters with Calandra accompanying him.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    This weekend coming is the ETC so we shall see how that goes. It's not the same as a normal tournament because I'm playing on a team so sometimes I may get sacrificed to try and get us the better matchups overall.

    But now I start looking towards the Uk Nationals and my current thought was to try new stuff and go along using ADR which means keeping Calandra and switching some elements around there, but then I will be trying either a brand new caster or one I really only play doing demos.

    My current thinking of starting lists is:


    PMadrak
    Runebearer
    Mulg
    Pyre
    Earthborn
    Janissa
    Sorcerer
    Stone Scribe Chronicler
    Max KSB + UA
    2 x Fire Eaters
    Max Warders

    Eborka potentially was
    EBorka
    Mulg
    Slag
    Axer
    Braylen
    Fellcaller
    Whelps
    Chronicler
    Max Highwaymen
    Max Warders
    Max Burrowers

    Then ADR on top of both of those which gives me quite a lot of points to do swaps with.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Played Trolls at the ETC and did not win a game.

    Game 1 Incursion vs Rask - Calandra loss on scenario. Never played Rask before, but I had a forest that slowed me down a lot.

    Game 2 Fire Support vs EButcher Mad Dog Tier - Calandra loss on scenario. Runeshapers broke at the wrong time so that I could not get enough in to contest against Butcher dominating the flag.

    Game 3 Destruction vs EXerxis - Runes loss on assassination. I must remember to feat. Lost all 3 heavies in one turn and couldn't get dice spike on blasting into EXerxis.

    Game 4 Close Quarters vs PVayl - Runes loss on assassination. A forest smack bang in the middle of the board meant I had real issues getting to threaten his beasts. A couple of decent scatters would have got me the game though.

    Game 5 Outflank vs EMorvahna - Calandra loss on scenario. And to continue the theme we got to the table got it re set up by a PGer and he put a house/obstacle between the two zones. One of us is happy teleporting through that Should have played Runes.

    I had fun games, but played against 3 new casters and a tier force I have to be lucky to plough through.

    Now I start look at building for ADR lists and EBorka is looking more likely at the moment.

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    Did you play EE with calandra? (I'm not getting my locks mixed up am I?)

    Played against it last night with my chain gang....poor trolls.

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    Yes I'm currently playing EE with her. I would not choose to play Chain gang again with it. It doesn't have the hitting power.

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    With 4 heavies and gators I didn't feel that threatened at all. The biggest worry was being flanked but when I took out 5 of his beasts in 1 turn it was pretty hard for him to do much.

    EE is a great list though.

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    It's more that it's very difficult to threaten Rasheth with losing a dice on ranged attacks against him. Normally I would choose to jam your list and threaten him, but that's not really an option and the Slag trolls have reduced potential as you're all living.

    Having been playing EE and ROW for a bit I wanted a change and to try out our new caster now that ADR offers that option. My plan then was to marry EE expanded with a load of options alongside Eborka with Mulg along for the fun. Eborka would therefore be looking to cover the heavy armour options that EE has issues with.

    The Calandra list would be

    Calandra
    Runebearer
    1 Winter
    3 Storm
    3 Pyre
    4 Slag
    Max KSB +UA

    The Specialists for her would be
    Janissa (3)
    Winter Troll (5)
    2 x Runeshapers (4 each)
    2 x Whelps (2)

    Janissa is there for letting Calandra play further forward with the wall to protect her. Janissa is also likely to give a unit of Runeshapers force lock and the pair giving the Krielstone 2 fury to start with. My standard list only runs 2 Pyre and 1 Slag and ran 2 runeshapers who usually went on the flanks unless there were reasons for needing a screen in front of Calandra.


    Objective has been Fuel Cache, but I'm thinking Bunker might be more useful as it's not that often that the Fuel Cache is in a position for the beasts to benefit.

    Then to Eborka

    So far my basic list is

    Eborka
    Mulg
    Axer
    Winter
    Whelps
    Chronicler
    Min KSB + UA
    Warders x 2
    Fire Eaters x 2
    Swamp Gobber crew

    Now this has changed from originally running a max KSb, but the KSB largely sits right behind Eborka and keeps him safe with others being a bonus rather than the focus, largely due to Borka's limited fury. The Whelps have so far not got on the table so I am happy to lose them though I can see their benefit.

    ADR wise I was thinking

    Fellcaller hero - for the warders as Pathfinder may be needed
    Pyre for the Fire Eaters and also in case I get nervous playing into Legion or Menoth.

    Then I'm stuck. I would appreciate some ideas. I have an ADR tournament to practice at ahead of the Masters in a few weeks and painting Borka and my second unit of Warders now.

    I have virtually everything that could be added in so would appreciate some thoughts.


    The Eborka list in its Max krielstone format got two games this week vs Lylyth3 and against Ossyan. Mulg got the kill in both games, but Battlecharged was a great benefit in both games and the Warders on the flanks helped keep the pressure up there. In the Ossyan game I used the Fire Eaters to run as two waves to interfere with the mass of troops coming towards me, but still working on getting the best out of them though they have been good so far.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Eborka with the min krielstone played against EMakeda last week using 2 Fronts again. Who knows how he works when he's playing a different scenario?

    This time I was concerned primarily about the Archidon and Molik Karn he had which might manage to get into Borka so I was working on positioning to prevent either a large base landing near to Borka or the sidestep shenanigans of Molik. I held off the feat from Borka for a bit and was working on clearing the zones through a combination of the fire eaters (who managed to be set on fire and not die for a time). Molik was countercharged by the Winter Troll who he failed to kill and ended up frozen by. In the end Makeda retreated on Borka's feat turn to try and get an angle for an assassination on his own. Borka rode into the enemy zone and stayed there with a ring of Warders and krielstone in front and Mulg near to him to attack anyone who went after Borka. The Archidon came in for the assassination, but was short and couldn't get to Borka. Mulg promptly killed him next turn thus winning on scenario.

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    I took Eborka to a tournament to try out ADR and I still need the practice with Borka as I lost a game vs Rasheth through poor positioning and moving up too far with Borka. Fire Eaters are starting to work a lot better and for both games today I ADRed the gobbers out and the sorcerer in.

    Calandra I went into PSkarre and was distracted by the Kraken, swapping out 2 units of Runeshapers for Janissa, another Slag troll and unit of whelps. Darragh was the bane of my game and I just could not roll dice. My feat turn was abysmall. I'm going to get some practice against that list and try to figure the best way to mitigate against the Satixys.

    Since then I've had another game with Borka into Skorne, this time against Emorghul with the Hit Squad tier force. My opponent is a very good Skorne player, but he likes to try different things rather than play Fist as standard. I lost the game on assassination as I bought forward Borka to finish off one of the new Skorne bugs and I should have held back one more turn as I was up on CP.

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    Well I attended the UK Nationals and ended up going 3-4 again with the ADR lists. First game EE vs Madhammer Earthbreaker. Def 20 does nothing against lucky drifts of aoes on feat turn. Second game EE into Kreoss3. I expected Durst, but he went with a caster he was more familiar with. Asassination by Pyre troll after clearing out most of his army.

    Game 3 was a rematch from Etc. Emorvahnna vs Eborka. I lost Mulg too easily, but the Kriels held up the centre and one flank well. Morvahnna had to go for the assassination herselfand got it on the last attack.

    Game 4 EE into Ecaine. I expected Ehaley. Managed to dominate my own zone and Calandra hid behind the objective in 2 fronts. Won it on scenario.

    Game 5 Eborka into Issyria on Recon. Mulg made it to Issyria and failed to kill, but I won on scenario anyway. GAME 6 EE into Pskarre triple bane knights. I lost too many beasts prior to feat turn and just couldn't deal with the swarm.

    Game 7 I lost due to forgetting I had whelps which would have meant Borka had the one transfer he needed and EVayl would have had to retreat as I would have cleared out all remaining beasts.

    Same win ratio as last year and one game that should have gone my way like last year.

    Since then I've put Calandra aside for a bit and continue to experiment with EBorka, but also put EGrim into the case to try out. Borka's new list, substituting in Rok and Max Longriders for the Kriel Warriors and Warders, has seen play and won against Runes of War. The speed of the list meant that I was able to get up and jam the runeshapers so that the beasts had issues unpacking from behind the walls. I could have gotten a turn 1 shot against Pdoomshaper with on fire Fire Eaters, which would have hurt as he had no fury on him at the time. Def 13 isn't hard to hit with boosted attacks. In the end I got Rok onto Doomshaper for the assassination.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    A question related to the trollbloods.
    I'm thinking of getting them and putting together a shopping list for them, one of the items is the all in 1 box where you got 1 unit of champions and 1 unit of warders.
    I have added a few more things that I thought was cool but I want to get 1 more infantry unit and it has come down to either 1 more unit of warders or 1 unit of Fennblades.
    Which should I chose ?

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    It depends on casters. You can run what is known as the Meat mountain with 2 x warders and 1 champions. Fennblades will give you a different type of infantry which is a lot faster than either champs or warders. They like to spread out and will give you much more board coverage and more ability to engage with scenario. The speed they can produce, particularly when using the mini feat from the unit attachment is impressive. If you want more options starting out I would go with the Fenns.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Well the caster you get with the all in 1 is Grissel1 and I got Doomshaper2.
    I opted with 2 wardens in the end mainly since I think their models look awesome and other warmahorde players recommended them as well even tho the meat mountain is more a negative term for them

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Grissel1 really likes infantry such as the Fenns and the Kriel Warriors. As she's on ADR the next period I'm looking at playing more with her.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Yeah I kinda like her ability. I was set on going full doomshaper with my trollbloods but looking at her calls, she seems alot more versatile since they speed up/buff(or debuff enemies) the whole army rather then just the warbeasts that Doomshaper2 does.
    Might get Doomshaper3 tho since he sounds awesome.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Got Doomy3 yesterday so just starting painting him. Doomshaper1 is very strong as well, especially with Goad, though most people just play his Runes of War tier list.

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    Re: Returning to Trollbloods

    Doomshaper3 has been released ?

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    Aww dammit. None of the stores in my area had him even available to order hence doomshaper2.

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