Does terrain need its own sub forum?

[Orcdom]

This has been coming up off and on in a couple threads. and i have been thinking about it for quite a while.

Project logs is a good idea, but with the traffic it gets, you can post something one day and even if it gets traffic, 2 days later it will be on page 3 or 4.

Warseer is a rapidly growing community and has alot of traffic. and i think its time to split the painting and terrain forum to have 3 categories.

1. Minatures and Modeling
2. Terrain
3. Project Logs (which i dont think its needed, but with the split combining the large projects from both threads, but will give the slower projects more view time in thier respective sub forums)

i would love to hear peoples positions on this subject.

[asmodai_dark86]

I can see the arguement for it, but there's been too much splitting of the forums recently - Ii cant find stuff instantly like I used to and Im far too lazy to work out the new system. The new ones fine, and with somethings theres a mix - where does a diaorama go for a start, and what about well painted models with out coversion?

Stay as it is, let it all stay fine and dandy

[Orcdom]

painted models would stay in the minature section, and diaromas could be either, but since the focal point is typically the minatures i would say the same.

i dont think thats too hard to figure, if its posted in the wrong forum then someone would just have to ask for it to be moved or the mod would move it. you will get a reply anyways by subscribing to the forum, i dont see where its a hastle.

least you voiced an opinion tho and why.

Steve

[tzeentchgiant]

I do believe, with all the new terrain traffic, it may be more appropriate to separate the forums once again.

Not necessary, but couldn't hurt.

TG

[DirtJumper]

I agree with Tzeentch Giant. There has been a tonne of terrain stuff recently (which, by the way is nice to see), and I think that it would actually facilitate navigating the site, all you have to do is go in the forum you're interested in, rather than having to go through all the stuff in the basic MP+t sub forum.

[gqelements]

speaking from experience of building commercial online community spaces, breaking up a forum/community into too many rooms just fragments the community. the more divicive [sp] the formum, the less activity each section enjoys.

leave it as is

[tzeentchgiant]

A fair point, but three is hardly a massive bundle, personally I think it would benefit the flow of the forum, but I do appreciate a loss of traffic could occur.

I still say go for it, what is lost in input is gained in ease.

TG

[asmodai_dark86]

See i like the fact that there all in one place - it means if I want to see one offs i can, and if i fancy seeing a terrain piece I can, but usually I dont look at boards/terrain etc

Would this become a set in stone thing then - i.e. if I posted a piece of terrain in minitures and modelling would it be moved?

Im just thinking the forums are free and easy so let them stay that way

[chris_valera]

Nah, leave it, it's all the same deal.

--Chris
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[Yarick Zan]

i think it would be best split into 3. that way people who are looking for some project logs can find them, people looking for terrain can find them, and people looking for minatures can find them. all with relative ease.

[Orcdom]

yes, and i wonder why the worry about if it gets moved to the appropriate forum? you sound like its a bad thing? its not like it effects you if you have your subscriptions set to recive replies, and if you dont your creating more work for yourself by going back and lookng for updates.

and about the one offs, your better off splitting the forum to actually see them, because if not many people post to it within a day and they just subscribe to it, it will be moved to page 2, 3 or 4. this is a main reason i would like to see it split. because once it there you rarely see a thread surface again.
and dont give me the crap off the other thread about cream of the crop rising to the surface. thats a cop out.

then when they reach 4th ot 5th pages and someone posts that they would like to see an update or just comment, then you have the people bitching about threadomancy, which god forbid someone reply to a previous post and not start a new one.

i personally dont like to always sift through all the painting pics to see the terrain pics. they are 2 completely different aspects of the hobby. and they both recieve enough traffic on this site to warrent seperation.

if people are interested in the subjects enough they will look at 2 seperate forums, the only people that require extra work involved are mods and admin. and this is the reason i posted the pole to hopefully see if there is enough want to warrent the forums split up.

Steve

[grimgorkgalle]

I think it is time to split it up, I'm tired of reading each thread, before I know what it is about...

[McMullet]

In P&T General, there is 1 terrain thread on the first two pages, against 36 miniature painting threads.

In Project Logs, there are 8 terrain threads vs. 32 miniature threads on the first two pages.

A terrain subforum would be very quiet. It is a natural split subject-wise, but from a practicality point of view, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

@grimgorkgalle: That's more the fault of the title of the thread being unclear. If the title is "Ultramarine Command Squad" then you should be able to figure out that it is miniatures and not terrain, whereas if someone uses an ambiguous "Look at my stuff!" title, you can't tell. If you let your pointer hover over the title, you can read the first line of the post though, which sometimes disambiguates it. However, creating a subforum just because posters don't title their threads properly seems a bit silly.

[Gaz]

I think splitting it is a good idea, so people will know exactly where to look for things

[lord_blackfang]

Why is this in P&T instead of where it belongs, in The Future of Warseer along with all the other "let's split P&T" threads?

[Gen_eV]

Nah, there's no need for a split.
As McMullet pointed out, there's very little in the way of terrain on the boards anyway, and it'd end up a really quiet subforum. Plus, I'm sure I'm not alone in my opinion of terrain threads - I'm not interested enough to ever actually go to a separate subforum, but I will click on the threads to have a quick nose around if they're just in a general P&T forum.

Keep 'em together, that's what I say.

[BlazeXI]

Ok, I was one of the firestarters behind this poll I presume.

I do believe that many of us are currently building gaming tables, as the Cities of Death are out. It would be very helpful to get all those theads in a separate subforum, so people needing hints would find these threads more easly.

Second subforum could be for one off minatures/regiments


The project logs could be retitles to Army Painting Logs so people would get a clear idea not to put say a single Dreadnought in there.

By the way, IMHO the new rumour roundup is so simpler to navigate, so I do not believe splitting into subforums is unsucessful.

[McMullet]

I'm torn really. The idea of a neglected terrain forum, filled with beautifully sculpted milliput tumbleweed is a sad thing to think of. On the other hand, if people are looking specifically for a terrain thread, it would be nice to split them up. But then, how often do people look specifically for some terrain to look at? Personally, I'm normally "just browsing" in MPT, to see if something takes my interest, be it terrain, modelling or painting-based, not looking for anything specific. I like to see some terrain, but I'm not going to go out of my way to find it.

There real issue is, how does terrain get more exposure? From those who are searching through the clutter of other threads in search of them, or those who stumble on them while looking through the forum for anyhting that looks good?

[tzeentchgiant]

The project logs could be retitles to Army Painting Logs so people would get a clear idea not to put say a single Dreadnought in there.

It isn't about armies though, it's about long running projects. That's the entire point of the forum, not to keep larger projects out, but to keep longer projects out.

TG

[Orcdom]

if there is small projects like one off figs those need reported and moved in the project logs.
as for neglect of terrain i dont hink it will.
there is always alot of interest in terrain. and most terrain projects are over several days, lots of times a few weeks, and is why they get moved down in pages an forgotten about, if there kept fresh we can but the owners about them as well.
people wont lose interest in the seperation i dont figure either. there are alot of people out there that dont have a clue on how to do this or that, and the thread will attract those people.

and like Blaze XI said, for example the new rumor roundup is pretty good split up as well.

edit: oh and why is it posted here? because this is the painting and terrain forum, people here will have an opinion on something that concerns "here".
future of warseer forum? didnt know it existed, and I dont think it matters to P&T because i dont really think opinions matter from people that dont visit P&T. if they visit this section they will see it and problem is solved.

Steve