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    New Mechanicus Player.

    So i recently got a AM fleet and before i put it all together wanted some advice.

    The only ship which i think is a must have is Retribution class battleship which locks down the 1 battleship chassi i have.

    After that i have 4 cruiser chassis and 3 light cruisers.

    I was thinking a pair of lunars, a gothic and a tyrant for the cruisers.

    While for the light cruisers a trio of defiants, on paper these look like a great choice. The left/front/right lances make the armored prow a solid choice and the launch bays give it flexibility and some much needed ordnance to the fleet.


    But would love to hear from people with more experience playing with/against the fleet.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    You're not going to use an Ark Mechanicus? I do not know if you have a list of vessels used by the Mechanicus, but here is one. Good luck.
    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adep...Vessels_(List)

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Shield View Post
    You're not going to use an Ark Mechanicus? I do not know if you have a list of vessels used by the Mechanicus, but here is one. Good luck.
    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adep...Vessels_(List)
    I find the ark over costed for what it actually provides. As you not only need to buy the expensive magos, it is a 400+ point ship. Compared to a Retribution i find it underperforms.

    Have you found it different in game?
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    A Retribution as AdMech Battleship is indeed a better investment then the Ark itself.
    At least in my opinion.

    Lunars are a good choice. I also run a Gothic. Five lances is quite formidable as support.

    And the Defiants are poop. I ran one. I lost. I changed it to an Endeavour I started winning with my AdMech. For ordnance support one Dictator will be sufficient. You won't win the ordnance war but with all the extra turrets have enough defence in that regard.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by horizon View Post
    A Retribution as AdMech Battleship is indeed a better investment then the Ark itself.
    At least in my opinion.

    Lunars are a good choice. I also run a Gothic. Five lances is quite formidable as support.

    And the Defiants are poop. I ran one. I lost. I changed it to an Endeavour I started winning with my AdMech. For ordnance support one Dictator will be sufficient. You won't win the ordnance war but with all the extra turrets have enough defence in that regard.
    My issue with the gothic is that it only real shines once shields have been knocked down, and with the tyrant being a poor mans dominator i cant see a ship ( or ships ) which i would pair it with.

    Interesting to hear on the defiance. May i ask what you found weak about it?
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    By the way, if you're looking to add any transportships, these might fit the Adeptus Mechanicus' aesthetics.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by malika View Post
    By the way, if you're looking to add any transportships, these might fit the Adeptus Mechanicus' aesthetics.
    They do look pretty solid, cheers mate.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    By the way, will the fleet's colours be matching your Mechanicus army?
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by malika View Post
    By the way, will the fleet's colours be matching your Mechanicus army?
    Yes it will be painted in the proud blue and yellow of my forge world :chrome: . Background wise i know of no reason why the ships must be black/red. And i think matching the colours will not only add a personal touch but make tie them together.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by nagash66 View Post
    My issue with the gothic is that it only real shines once shields have been knocked down, and with the tyrant being a poor mans dominator i cant see a ship ( or ships ) which i would pair it with.

    Interesting to hear on the defiance. May i ask what you found weak about it?
    In my fleet I rarely make squadrons. So I can keep the Gothic acting on its own. With the Retribution doing the big gunnery (get that right shift upgrade) the Gothic is there to finish the job. And the Gothic, even braced, still manages three lances in a broadside.
    I do run a Lunar as well. And Gladii bolster my fleet with more weapon batteries.

    The Defiant is poo, imo, because it is so easily suppressed. They need to provide that AC cover but with 1 shield and 6 hits it is either quick on brace or if not braced to fast crippled. They are just not competent. A pity because I do like the concept. It is a ship that fares cool in a small skirmish style of BFG with only 1 capital ship and a couple of escorts engaging.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Quote Originally Posted by horizon View Post
    In my fleet I rarely make squadrons.
    For mechanicum i can see this being the case with cruisers, but the light cruisers to me at least look perfect for playing in pairs.

    Quote Originally Posted by horizon View Post
    So I can keep the Gothic acting on its own. With the Retribution doing the big gunnery (get that right shift upgrade) the Gothic is there to finish the job. And the Gothic, even braced, still manages three lances in a broadside.
    But thats my point, it NEEDS others ships, a Lunar would still get 2 lances out while braced, but would also add the much needed batteries, which are also much perfered vs some fleets.



    Quote Originally Posted by horizon View Post
    The Defiant is poo, imo, because it is so easily suppressed. They need to provide that AC cover but with 1 shield and 6 hits it is either quick on brace or if not braced to fast crippled. They are just not competent. A pity because I do like the concept. It is a ship that fares cool in a small skirmish style of BFG with only 1 capital ship and a couple of escorts engaging.

    Hmm, i will give my light cruisers some games without gluing on weapons, and then re evaluate them. But my gut says 2 of them having back good be a good second wave, then again it has been wrong before.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Hey guys don't mean to try and hijack the thread at all but just 2 quick questions. Do ad mech actually have official models? And I'm thinking about adding a ship to my imperial Navy. I'm thinking lunar or Gothic but would love any opinions. Im thinking Gothic as I already have 3 lunars.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Yes the Adeptus Mechanicus has (better said had) official models:

    https://goo.gl/photos/LCmrTb7YKABt3V3R6
    https://goo.gl/photos/5WFrvJDpKTEr1MSW9

    Sorry for the poor pictures.

    So they do have a battleship, cruiser and light cruiser model.

    http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery...t%20Gothic.jpg
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Thank you I'll try to pick one up to represent them in my fleet this way I'll have a ship to go with each of my armies. Hoping to score a cruiser off eBay if not I'll try aliexpress.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    I was just able to land an ad mech cruiser off eBay that I will Ally to my imperial Navy. I have 3 lunars and 2 gothics already. I don't mind building this as either but which should I go for? I'm thinking I go Gothic.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    For Admech, Tyrant isn't bad either. With the 60cm dorsal lance and it broadsides upgraded to FP10 at 45cm it'd be a nice stand off support vessel to back up your gothics and lunars without crowding them.
    The admech's higher base leadership also makes the dictator a useful option, though that swings a price class higher in points, of course.

    But if the options are only gothic and lunar, then evening the balance is a good plan.
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    This is what I have already, the auction I won the ad mech cruiser was another dominator which I may take the Nova cannon off and make that a tyrant.

    Retribution
    Emperor
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    2x Gothic
    2 or 3 Dominator
    3x lunars
    2x Dictator
    Maybe a tyrant.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    With those vessels I say you have enough cruisers... you need escorts.

    As for what that AdMech cruiser should become... a Lunar because of the versatility or a Tyrant because you don't have it...
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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    Yes I have plenty of escorts just listing my Capitol ships to help with what to make the ad mech ship. I'm hoping i can get a few more off eBay but they are really rare. I think I'll change the dominator to a tyrant and I'll make the ad mech ship a lunar for the versatility.

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    Re: New Mechanicus Player.

    You appear to have plenty of cruisers of all variety for any normal size game, so I'll suggest building whatever you think looks best from now on.
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