Vostroyan Discussion Thread

[themagister]

need i say more? this the fist official vostoyan discussion forum i know of. i bought a platoon and some snipers. but i dont know what else to get. there is no real doctrine listed in any administratum texts i posses. i was thinking of making them mobile, and then maybe customizing my own "nocht soldaten" night soldiers, or my special forces forces. i also think they would do well to incorporate mobile troop units much like the steel legion. but that might not work to well, cuz they are so expensive. i was also thinking of making strong points. barricaded buildings, with modeled quarters and ammo boxes and stuff with snipers and mortars on the fourth flour, anti tank units on the third flour bolters and cannons on the second floor, infantry on the ground floor. and command in sand baggish bunker like structure in the basement with voxes and crap there.

SO, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS, AND FEEL TO START YOUR OWN DISCUSSIONS, SHARE IDEAS, CRITIQUE MINE, AND IMPROVE YOUR FURRY

[Steel_Legion]

the doctrines can be found in a recent white dwarf, 2 moths ago i think (?) so UK 318 i think

[Sir_Lunchalot]

The official doctrines of the Vostroyan Firstborn are:
Carapace armor
Sharpshooters
Hardened Fighters
Special weapon Squads
Heavy Weapon Platoons

I bought a Vostroyan army, I'm fieldign it as the 4th Kanada, using the following Doctrines:
Carapace Armor
Chem Inhalers
Sharpshooters
Rough Rider Squadrons
Close Order Drill

[Toppan]

id love to see people convert vostroyans
arent they all metal though?

[Sir_Lunchalot]

They are indeed all metal. Converting things into Vostroyans, however is quite easy.

[Snakebite]

It's about time we had one of these! I usually play Space Marines, and after a blitz on painting to get an army ready for a recent Tournament, I was giving myself a Marine hiatus with the fantastic Vostroyan models. I've since been bitten with the bug and am now planning an army...

id love to see people convert vostroyans
arent they all metal though?

It should be easy enough - the conversions will just be mostly adding parts rather than taking them away. Green Stuff sculpting will be far more in evidence I think rather than replacement heads and weapons. Although, on that point, it should be easy enough to convert a flamer into a melta gun, or a lasgun into a flamer.

I've converted the Senior Officer from the Command Squad to be firing a Scout Bolt Pistol rather than holding his cane. It looks really good and as it looks techy, it fits in with the high quality "feel" to the Vostroyan wargear.

I'm using the Doctrines:

Carapace armor
Sharpshooters
Hardened Fighters
Special weapon Squads

I can do without the Heavy Weapons Doctrine, and I am planning Rough Riders as a counter attack unit.

i bought a platoon and some snipers. but i dont know what else to get. there is no real doctrine listed in any administratum texts i posses. i was thinking of making them mobile, and then maybe customizing my own "nocht soldaten" night soldiers, or my special forces forces. i also think they would do well to incorporate mobile troop units much like the steel legion. but that might not work to well, cuz they are so expensive.

I started off with the Command Squad and some Snipers - not through tactical choice but purely as a break from my Marines. I think you're right about the need for mobility in the army, although I don't think Mechanised armies fare very well in most games. I would certainly agree with a mobile element such as an Armoured Fist Squad. In my admittedly meagre Guard experience, I've found that Guard armies need numbers and firepower to do well.

i was also thinking of making strong points. barricaded buildings, with modeled quarters and ammo boxes and stuff with snipers and mortars on the fourth flour, anti tank units on the third flour bolters and cannons on the second floor, infantry on the ground floor. and command in sand baggish bunker like structure in the basement with voxes and crap there.

That sounds like a great idea to me. Themed terrain is a passion of mine (or it would be had I the skill!) and what you've suggested there sounds like it could work. You'd just have to be careful when playing Cities of Death that you don't get it blown out from underneath all those models!

[themagister]

well, ive been trying to make half open great coats since i made this, id post pitures, but i lost my cable.

[Snakebite]

well, ive been trying to make half open great coats since i made this, id post pitures, but i lost my cable.

I remember a number of pictures I've seen in the Project Logs Forum. Plastic Cadians being all but covered in Green Stuff that was then being sculpted very well as I recall.

My conversion efforts will mostly be additions rather than replacements. I plan to build tripod mounted Missile Launchers to use in Anti Tank Support Squads while using Vostroyan Weapon Team models as crew. I also want to convert up a unit of Rough Riders, as seen on the Vostroyan Home Page on the Games Workshop Web Site.

What did people think of the recent Battle Report in the UK White Dwarf, featuring the Vostroyans, Ultramarines, Death Guard and the Black Legion? From my point of view, it was refreshing to see an Imperial Guard army get off its collectives achieve an objective. I thought it was an odd situation to have a Sniper armed Special Weapons team running the Governor to safety, but it turned out OK...

Is anyone fighting on Medusa V with Vostroyans? I'm personally fighting with my Marines but that's only because I've only just started on the Vostroyans.

Has anyone fought particularly close games with Vostroyans recently? I'd like to hear about them.

Well, that's a very open floor to be getting on with. Who's next?

[Sir_Lunchalot]

Haven't been able to use my Vostroyans yet, they're in the process of being painted. by the end of August I should be able to take them to GW.

[Snakebite]

Head over here to check out my Vostroyan army list. It's the first I've put together and will hopefully become my main army.

To Sir_Lunchalot:

I've had a read of your Project Log - it looks very impressive. Good luck with them!

[Seleucus]

Yet to get my Vostroyans, but, at least to begin with, they will act as Stormtrooper/Grenadiers or hardened vets for my Valhallans, until I can build up a good size force of Firstborn.

The lasguns are sufficiently different from the standard to get away with 'counts as' hellguns I think.

If I don't get round to buying a full army, the a little gs work will be enough to permanently make them stormtroopers.

Seleucus

[baneful]

Ive been purchasing mine so far and am slowly assembling them all. I am yet to decide on a paint job though.

What Ive brought so far:
- Command HQ (5)
- 2 sniper special weapons squads (2 units of 6)
- Commissar
- 6 Ogryns
- Chimera
- 3 Griffon Heavy Mortars
- Chimerax (conversion)
- 1 First Born Squad (10)
- 3 Platoons (75)

out of this Im also converting some flamers into meltagun troops.

Other then that doctrines so far will consist of for me:
- Special Weapon Squads
- ogryns
- carapace
- sharpshooters

thats about itso far...

[jullevi]

Hello fellas.

I recently picked up a box of vostroyans and fell in love with the models. I've always wanted to play 'oomies, but i didn't like painting cadians.

Here's some models from my first infantry squad:

http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vo...miit/vost1.jpg
http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vo...miit/vost2.jpg
http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vo...miit/vost3.jpg
http://www.uta.fi/~hp73209/vasara/vo...miit/vostf.jpg

[Snakebite]

Nice - they look great! Also, nice to see a different colour than red. What colour grey is that on the material?

I thought mine looked good but they're nothing like that - oh well, back to the painting table!

[Chris]

Here are a couple of my Vostroyans
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ming_small.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...am_2_small.jpg
The heavy bolter team is what sold me on the models. I love the drum mag and the laying down gunner. Its awesome. I didn't really plan for mine to turn out like GWs, but I'm really happy with them none the less. I think I'm going to stick with the Vostroyan first born fluffvand give them all russian names. Vostroyia sounds russian-esqe to me.

As for a list, I'm starting with this for a platoon.

Command group with carapace armor
JO with Iron Disclipine, Bolt Pistol and CCW
2 Firstborn with Grenade Launchers
Lascannon Team
2 Squads with Veteran Sergeants, Plasma Guns and heavy bolters

I think I'll double up on those platoons plus a command group (I love that senior officer model). If I'm not tired of painting Vostroyans, I can add some more heavy weapon teams or more infantry. If I'm tired of them I was debating adding some Sisters of Battle or Grey Knights...

[themagister]

really, i would like to paint my vostroyans with more muted browns, and then bring out armor and equipment deatails. orm i would want to paint them like tsarist era russians.

[Snakebite]

I've already posted this in the Painting Support Group forum but I thought it worth posting here again. This is a Vostroyan Medic conversion I've been mucking about with for a few days now. The head is from the new(ish) Space Marine Command Squad sprue.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...onversion1.jpg

This is my Senior Officer conversion, Commander of the Vostroyan 6th Firstborn Regiment - Major Nikolai Rozhenko. So far, he's carrying a Bolt Pistol that has been "rescued" from a plastic Space Marine Scout model. As with all members of his Command Squad, he'll be mounted on an Urban Basing Kit base.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...is/Nikolai.jpg

Apologies for the blurriness of the picture, but you get the idea!

[Snakebite]

Okay, I've doubled my Painted Vostroyan figures - I now have two! The medic is next up, and will be the first Vostroyan I've converted. His base will be a small diorama in its own right, with a Cities of Death Lamp-post overlooking him as he's administering the Emperor's Benediction on a fatally wounded Vostroyan by the roadside.

Has anybody else had any luck or inspiration with regards to Vostroyan conversions?

Other ideas on my list include a Vostroyan casualty on a medical stretcher / table to be used as a Cities of Death "Medicae" Strategem. I played against Khornate Marines with my Imperial Marines on Thursday, with the entire Khorne army having Feel No Pain. Imperial Guard with that kind of advantage will be a serious pain to deal with - pun intended...

[Snakebite]

Following on from Vostroyan conversions, I'd like to post pictures of a converted Sniper...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...is/Sniper1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...is/Sniper2.jpg

Admittedly, it's only a head. But there are so many other possibilities! So come on, somebody else must have an idea!

[Tanith Ghost]

I've actualy opted for ratlings instad of spec weapon platoons.
The only conversion involved with getting them to fit was giving the little guys bearskin hats and heavy boots with green stuff.
I'll post some pics when done.

On the request for a battle report-
The Vednikan 47th rifles took their new vostroyan gear into battle for the first time on Medusa V in a kill team mission to eliminate a tau sub-commander. Long story short, the team, led by a veteran stormtrooper, dispatched over a dozen foes with no loss and the tau sub commander being slain by the team leader herself(the 47th rifles are a mixed gender regiment).