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    Black Templar Rumours.

    I've recently acquired bits of Black Templar rumourage from various sources,

    • As per the previous list BT's do not get Librarians or Devastator squads.
    • Sword Brethren are said to be Elite choices and may use Terminator or power armour.
    • Tactical squads are known as Crusaders and may take as many neophytes as there are initiates so you can have a 20 man tactical squad.
    • Emperors Champion has been reworked and is supposed to be optional under 750pts.
    • Land Raider Crusaders can be taken by HQ, Elite or Troops choices as transport in addition to being Heavy Support.
    • Drop Pods are available.
    • New bits of wargear including extra stuff for Crusaders and Holy Orbs of Anitoch a thrown grenade with a five second fuse no more, no less.
    • New type of Servitor for Templar Chaplains
    • Sword Brethren under certain circumstances can take various types of shields
    • Possible reworking of Righteous Zeal so you have to fleet towards the nearest enemy if you fail a test following casualties


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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstone
    New bits of wargear including extra stuff for Crusaders and Holy Orbs of Anitoch a thrown grenade with a five second fuse no more, no less.
    Watch out for the rabbit. He's dynamite! [/Python]

    Interesting stuff. Templars are starting to attract my attention. Twenty strong squads? Someone's been fighting Ork mobs for too long.

    I'm not surprised by the shield options as this fights the Crusader ethos quite nicely.
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    They are very themed towards close combat with rules benefitting them while in combat.
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstone
    They are very themed towards close combat with rules benefitting them while in combat.
    Will this be of the type:
    "Units you would want to use get a bonus or become mandatory, while units you would not want to use anyway get a disadvantage or are disallowed"?
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Any info on if any of the shield options might be new? (not standard storm shield, combat shield, etc.)

    Any hints as to what circumstances allow for the different shield options?
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Prepare to commence drooling
    Preparing to drool aye sir!
    Commence drooling
    Drooling aye sir!

    These rumoured changes reflect the style of the Black Templars quite well, and I'm pleased to see them, rumours or no. I am curious to see what the function of the Chaplain servitors are, perhaps they have psychic hoods?

    And at least the DP debate will be put to rest.

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    "Its just a Rabitt!"
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    seems like itll stop people from complaining about them, hopefully...

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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    To add a bit of speculation to Brim's rumors, the picture at the Cry Havoc event showed a Chaplain with two or three of the new servitors...they seem ZEALOT-based, like Empire flagellants or something similar. One carrys an aquila on a chain over his shoulder...think religious nuts made into servitors. Bingo. I can't wait for them.

    Talking to Pete Haines at the GD, he didn't say much, just the Chaplain news (there will be more than 1, including the Terminator). Someone at Dakka claims to have seen the Termi, but gavce no details, except to say he was fiddly. Hopefully the Chi-town GD in five weeks will yield the first big rumor/image dump for the BT's.

    I like what I am hearing...I expected to. I like the idea of the Crusading BT's.

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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by dienekes96
    To add a bit of speculation to Brim's rumors, the picture at the Cry Havoc event showed a Chaplain with two or three of the new servitors...they seem ZEALOT-based, like Empire flagellants or something similar. One carrys an aquila on a chain over his shoulder...think religious nuts made into servitors. Bingo. I can't wait for them.
    I think that may be a new special character Chaplain Grimaldus and his servitors that carry relics from a temple.

    I believe the servitors are actually failed initiates so may be partial Space Marines, they have some effects to the Righteous Zeal rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Witch Hunter
    Any info on if any of the shield options might be?
    Just a choice of storm or combat for elites and storm for fast attack although my information is not complete on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonFever
    I heard somewhere (I think Dakka) that the vows will cost points now...
    Correct and there are only four now.

    - Accept the Challenge, no matter the odds.
    - Uphold the honour of the Emperor.
    - Suffer not the unclean to live.
    - Abhor the Witch, destroy the Witch.

    Quote Originally Posted by x-esiv-4c
    tell me you were joking about the holy hand grenade right?
    Nope, it's a pretty cool piece of wargear and will be fairly popular I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrAnKtHeFrEaK
    A little confused about the crusader as transport option and heavy support thing, I thought that it already was that.
    Nope, check the new Marine codex and the Crusader is just a heavy support choice and is not listed under transport vehicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstone
    - Abhor the Witch, destroy the Witch.
    THIS is why I believe everything BVrimstone has said so far. GW's new codex scheme leaves no codex finished until it kicks Thousand Sons down just a little more.

    Glad to hear BT pay for their vows now. Like BA, using rules restrictions to balance benefits just leads to min/maxing and the appearance that they army gets something for free.

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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Oh yea those are the kinds of changes i can live with. Oh man not i cant wait till the codex comes out
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    I heard somewhere (I think Dakka) that the vows will cost points now...
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    Looks pretty cool, tell me you were joking about the holy hand grenade right?
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    As a BT player I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the new Codex.

    There rumours all sound good, nothing bad there at all.

    A little confused about the crusader as transport option and heavy support thing, I thought that it already was that.
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    The crusader might be now. It wasnt in the old BT codex.(I personally dont own a copy of the new SM codex)
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    I got confused, now I understand. I just read it as being as it is now (buy it as a heavy support but can transport another unit).

    That's a huge change, gives the BT's more access to land raiders than any other chapter other than Deathwing.
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    That holy-hand-grenade alone will coerce people to play BT I think it's a funny idea, I wonder if they are going to pack some fluff behind it.
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by x-esiv-4c
    That holy-hand-grenade alone will coerce people to play BT I think it's a funny idea, I wonder if they are going to pack some fluff behind it.
    For sure, the Templars as you would expect are a very very religious chapter and this theme runs very strongly throughout the codex rules, background and wargear.
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Yea but then they would be a joke army. I can here the little kids now"oh i use the Bt's holy handgranade" It would make a mockery of the BT. I think it would N E WAYS
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    Re: Black Templar Rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorsChamp01
    Yea but then they would be a joke army. I can here the little kids now"oh i use the Bt's holy handgranade" It would make a mockery of the BT. I think it would N E WAYS
    Just because they have one piece of wargear with a in-joke to monty python doesn't make them a joke army, far from it.
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