Taktika: Orks

[Bloodthirster90]

Hey guys, quick question.

The theme of my orks is mechanised, which obviously means as many vehicles as I can fit in, but less speed freekz and more like an orky version of IG. Question is, can a list using this idea be any good, competetively speaking? Currently own a trukk and a looted predator, along with a fair few boyz, nobz, a boss and a big mek. I was thinking, when I play at my club, I might use an old codex for the tanks, as I believe you used to be able to have specific rules for different looted tanks. Am I wrong?

[Darth Bobo]

I belive you're right but going by the new codex you'll have to equip your Looted Vehicles with guns.

I'm not sure playing guard with orks is really effective though. You need a quick delivery system for getting into CC where Orks can do some proppa fighting, if you want to go mechanized with Orks, that means a lot of Trukks supported by special units, buggies and koptas in my opinion

[blurrymadness]

I'd say typical mechanized orks is the same as saying the battlewagon rush. Basically load up 3 BWs with sluggas/shootas for about 700 points (350ish for the bws, 170-180 a squad inside) and then get a BW of Nobz or two.

Orks however, are one of the armies that are actually more viable without being fully mechanised. Doing it partially (2-3 BWs in a KFF) and having a wall of walkers guarding a ton of boyz gets your model count way up, puts a lot of S10 on the field, adds lots of obscured AV11-12 and makes the enemy really have to decide proper target priority.

[razormasticator]

I'd say typical mechanized orks is the same as saying the battlewagon rush. Basically load up 3 BWs with sluggas/shootas for about 700 points (350ish for the bws, 170-180 a squad inside) and then get a BW of Nobz or two.

Orks however, are one of the armies that are actually more viable without being fully mechanised. Doing it partially (2-3 BWs in a KFF) and having a wall of walkers guarding a ton of boyz gets your model count way up, puts a lot of S10 on the field, adds lots of obscured AV11-12 and makes the enemy really have to decide proper target priority.

I am in the process of amassing an ork army and thats sort of what I was looking to do. A partially mech force.

Something along the lines of 2-3 Battlewagons and or Trucks. a Bunch of Boys. Both Shooty and Choppa style.

Some Kans, a Deff Dread, maybe some Nob Bikerz.

Other units I was considering purchasing, some Lootas/Burna Boys as well as a Shock Attack Gun and Snikrot. I also would have some DeffKoptas on hand because you can get them so cheap on Ebay.

How does this all sound to you. Looking for good purchasing advice for an Orky Noob.

[Hokiecow]

If you have the cash, go for all of the above!

Else starting with Wagon, Trukks, Boyz, and Nobs would be a good place to start.
Then expand to Kans or Bikes.
And when you ready to try something new with your army, get the Lootas, TankBustas, Commando, etc.

[razormasticator]

If you have the cash, go for all of the above!

Else starting with Wagon, Trukks, Boyz, and Nobs would be a good place to start.
Then expand to Kans or Bikes.
And when you ready to try something new with your army, get the Lootas, TankBustas, Commando, etc.

Alight cool.

Yeah, I have some Kans and Koptas coming from Ebay cheap.

So I am going to focus on trukks and boyz.

Thanks

[Eta]

Alight cool.

Yeah, I have some Kans and Koptas coming from Ebay cheap.

So I am going to focus on trukks and boyz.

Thanks

I'd kitbash the wagon(s), it is relatively easy to do and you can save a lot of money. Plastic card / cardboard, a scissor and a knife is all you need (and glue of course) to build decent rides for your Orks.

Greetings
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[lachlin]

I'd kitbash the wagon(s), it is relatively easy to do and you can save a lot of money. Plastic card / cardboard, a scissor and a knife is all you need (and glue of course) to build decent rides for your Orks.

Greetings
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Every vehicle in my 3rd edition speed freek army were made out of sprues, cardboard, gw trukk tires and yu-gi-oh cards.

[Eta]

Every vehicle in my 3rd edition speed freek army were made out of sprues, cardboard, gw trukk tires and yu-gi-oh cards.

Oh yeah, the so important sprues to reinforce the structure and as customizable bits all around the vehicle. How could I forget those?!

Greetings
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[razormasticator]

A question about your standard boyz. Is it better to get a few battleforces? or should I just get AOBR boys? Are regular shooters important or is better to just roll with Choppas and sluggas etc?

Because I can get 60 AOBR boys cheap on Ebay. But If I am really going to need shootie boys perhaps the Battleforces are a good buy too because of the bikers/trukks.

[lachlin]

I always use at least one unit of shootas. I like zipping a BW around the table doing 20 shot drive bys.

[razormasticator]

I always use at least one unit of shootas. I like zipping a BW around the table doing 20 shot drive bys.

I was thinking that I would want at least 1 unit of 20 shootas or so.

[Hokiecow]

The AoBR boyz are a quick way to get an Ork army going. The downside is your army gets pretty ... static looking since the posses get redundant.

[madd0ct0r]

my shoota mob is mostly AoBR generally dual wielding pistols.
One or two have real shoota's, others looted guns.

It can be done, as long as you make them look shooty enough.

to compensate a few of my choppa/slugga mob have actually got two choppas.

[Gensuke626]

for the Shoota vs Slugga debate...I put Slugga Boyz into Trukks and shoota boyz on foot. No exceptions. If it's not in a trukk, it's a Shoota Boy. I also run a Mini Kan wall supported by 3 trukks, 2 with slugga boyz and 1 with Meganobz and a Boss. So I'll let you ladz decide how best to spin your armies, but mine works well the way I have it set up.

[Born2Rune]

I know this isnt going to add anything important to the discussions, but i just wanted to say thanks for this tactica. Having recently acquired a small ork force i was really unsure how to proceed with purchases or playstyle for the army, but the arguments put forward in this thread have really helped me to form a clear plan of action. Cheers folks!

[Zaeon]

always keep a open mind too, people see online guides or "the winning list" and build armies around them without trying anything else. It gets old at the local club when all the lame people show up with a list they got online with no idea how to play.

[blurrymadness]

Other units I was considering purchasing, some Lootas/Burna Boys as well as a Shock Attack Gun and Snikrot. I also would have some DeffKoptas on hand because you can get them so cheap on Ebay.

How does this all sound to you. Looking for good purchasing advice for an Orky Noob.

-I personally converted my lootas using autocannons, assault cannons, some converted double-big-shootas, warbike guns, heavy bolters, and the like. They look very shooty, and unlike the over-costed everyone-looks-alike box from GW, they're at least 50% less to build, look better, and look unique. Even the ones that look similar look enough different (by variation of how they hold the gun, their stance, or similar)

Further, if they bring back the old flash gitz whenever the new codex would come out (June 2036?) I can use them as those instead.

-Burnas, IMO, have very mixed results, so be wary. They look delicious however.

-The SAG is also mixed. Fun, but lacks definition for your army and has a few ways of killing himself (the most often I hear of is teleporting into terminators/MCs or similar)

-Snikrot is one of the few consensus in the book. Given our book is very internally balanced, Snikrot is one of those that nearly everyone says "LOL, he's the best." Some prefer the nob, but generally theirs little reason to. He's just that zoggin awesome. Consider, however, converting him instead to save bucks and you might build a sweet model in the process. If not, then buy him :P

-Deffkoptas are on the lower end of the communities positive feelings. They're alright, and have many uses, but they're godawful expensive for their survivability, even compared to bikes. Their utility comes in their ability to scout/outflank IMO, as most of their other tasks can be performed by a buggy/trakk for less cost, and a far far tougher platform.

IMO, if you're taking em for a Buzzsaw, you can almost do that with Stormboyz. Just consider your options before going crazy.

EDIT:

[...]but mine works well the way I have it set up.

I think that's the biggest issue with the codex
We can't imagine getting better results with other options, but they're all pretty darn good.

my shoota mob is mostly AoBR generally dual wielding pistols.
One or two have real shoota's, others looted guns.
It can be done, as long as you make them look shooty enough.
to compensate a few of my choppa/slugga mob have actually got two choppas.

It's just as cheap and easy to buy shoota arms and build shootas out of em. I did so with about 20-30 and they turned out great for less than a dollar a model.

The AoBR boyz are a quick way to get an Ork army going. The downside is your army gets pretty ... static looking since the posses get redundant.

When it comes to building shootas out of em, no one can notice with proper modeling care. My shootas from AoBR are nearly indistinguishable from my standard boyz

[Lamoron]

So I never played an apocalypse game before, but now I got invited to one in about a month. Since I don't own any superheavies, I'm getting around to building a few. I've ordered some parts for a stompa (Goff Klawstompa) but while waiting I thought I'd do something else.

I decided that no ork apocalypse army would be complete without the incredibly lame Ork Minelayer (http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_..._Minelayer.pdf), so I've decided to build one.

Does anyone know what size base the actual mines use?

[Eta]

Does anyone know what size base the actual mines use?

Judging from the "size comparison Ork" I'd say that they use / could be used with the 60mm bases.

Greetings
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