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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Col.Gravis
    Heres a question which may well of come up before but I'm not sure Grey Knights have the special rule which results in Daemons having to roll a D6 for their charge distance - am I right in assuming this will not actually have any effect in the Arena or should it be noted? I'm just wondering as if it did have effect it *could* potentially allow a Grey Knight two rounds of shooting at such opponents :-s
    No, while your argument has merrit, their is only 1 shooting phase per match then you are automatically in combat.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Im in. WIll post a character tonight
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    *nods* Tis what I suspected, just thought it was worth confirming in case it was something useful to add to my entry, as its not I shall not Cheers

    @Commander X

    Just to point out, yep you start 6", a difficult terrain test could result in the Daemon Prince rolling less then 6" to charge as you point out, if this was possible an extension of this would be to specifiy in your tactics to stand still and shoot for all ur worth - not charging if possible.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander X
    *Thinks*
    Are you sure Scourging doesn't include the 'instead of making another shooting attack' line most ranged powers have?
    It does, the codex specifically says " Scourging is a psychic power that may be used in the psykers's shooting phase instead of firing a weapon.

    Also as a side note, if he chooses to use scourging instead of his psycannon, then he can't use his force weapons special abilty in the first round of combat...

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Edited my character slightly, I'd gone over the Daemonic allowances... D'oh

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    The Bound Daemon Arazil

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    Chaos Lord (60), Mark of Slaanesh (10), Combat Drugs (25), Spikey Bits (10), Close Combat Weapon (1), Frag Grenades (1), Krak Grenades (2), Daemonic Stature (15), Daemonic Aura (15), Dread Axe (25), Daemonic Resilience (10), Daemonic Strength (10), Furious Charge (15) = 199 Points

    Stats
    WS: 6
    BS: 3
    S: 5 (6) -> On Charge (7)
    T: 5 (6)
    W: 3
    I: 5 -> On Charge (6)
    A: 4 -> With Combat Drugs (5)
    LD: 10
    Sv: 3+/5+

    Special Rules & Equipment
    Spikey Bits: Re-roll 1 missed attack each assault phase
    Monstrous Creature: Ignores Armour Saves
    Dread Axe: Ignores Invulnerable Saves. For each casualty, take LD check or suffer Periels of the Warp.
    Warp Scream: Enemy at -1 Initiative
    Combat Drugs:Roll a die for each 'Boost' chosen. If Double, loose a wound, if triple, dies. Use all three boosts according to list below:
    Boost 1: • Always roll +1 Attack
    Boost 2: • If enemy WS is 6, then use +1 WS drug (so still hits on 3+) else
    • If enemy has natural Toughness of 4, then use +1 S drug only on charge (so he has Str 8 on charge, enough to insta-kill T4). This drug takes presidence, if both conditions are met. If both apply, use only this one.
    Boost 3: • If enemy is not Str 10, use ignore first unsaved wound. If they are, use the unused boost from Boost two.

    Hopefully its all correct as it was a rush job. 6 attacks on the charge re-rolling one and wounding on 4+ or better with no saves at all and essentially at I7, Arazil hopes to smah them before the same happens to him...
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    I'm glad we can all come up with unique princes That's the problem with the super heavyweight. There can only be so many types of worthwhile contenders...After that, people just start cloning my entries

    Antyrael

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Antyrael
    I'm glad we can all come up with unique princes That's the problem with the super heavyweight. There can only be so many types of worthwhile contenders...
    *Pulls out Guard Codex*
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    *Pulls out Chaos Dex*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antyrael
    After that, people just start cloning my entries
    I just opened first Page, Saw Pert's entry and said wow, that's exactly what i wanted to do. So to be different i went for speed and attacks over his Inst-Death critter of doom. Didn't realise someone else had thought the exact same thing...honest
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Wow I'll be the only Marine in this whole tourny and probably be killed in the first round... but at least I'm unique!

    Also the problem of to many chaos characters could be solved by only letting in a certain % of Chaos and Tyranid players in.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Antyrael in the Heavy Weight Thread
    You'll also find that I was the first Khornate Chaos lord, and then up pops an EXACT clone of my character Along with 2 or 3 other similar characters...

    Quote Originally Posted by Antyrael in the Super Heavy Weight Thread
    I'm glad we can all come up with unique princes That's the problem with the super heavyweight. There can only be so many types of worthwhile contenders...After that, people just start cloning my entries

    You do realise there are only so many configs for Daemon Princes right?

    If you were really that original, you'd be the one trying out an entrant from a different codex.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kensai X
    Also the problem of to many chaos characters could be solved by only letting in a certain % of Chaos and Tyranid players in.
    That would effectively be handicapping the other players who want to enter when they are going to be facing "ringers" (i.e. all the monstrous creatures).
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    @Kensai: My Librarian's in. A bastion of light in this sea of darkness, we are

    Probably get drawn against each other now
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Speaking again about the case when a mini is not allowed to charge a grey knight (or a Nid with The Horro power)... Xabier has said this doesn´t allow you to shoot again at this mini, as your character will be close enough to charge by himself... But then again, the daemon trying to charge the grey knight, as he has seen his charge negated, isn´t allowed the benefits for the charge , isn´t it? (I mean +1 attack for charging, +1 strenght for furious charge and this kind of things).

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Nurgle Chaos Lord 60pts
    WS:6
    BS:3
    S:6(7) charging
    T:5(6)
    W:3+1
    I:5(6) charging
    A:3+2 and (2CCWs daemonic mutation)
    Ld:10
    Sv:3+/5+

    Daemonic Stature: +1 S +1 T, changes WS to 6 and BS to 3 (toughness counts for calculating instant kill) 15pts
    Daemonic Strength: +1 S 10pts
    Daemonic Essence +1 W 15pts
    Daemonic mutation: +1 attack 15pts
    Daemonic Aura: gives a 5+ invulnerable save. 15pts
    Mark of Nurgle: gives 1 T and true grit 10pts
    Plague sword: power weapon, for each model wounded by it but not killed, roll 1D6, on a 4+ the model dies regardless of remaining wounds 25pts
    Furious Charge: when charging, +1I and +1 S 15pts
    Spiky Bits: may re-roll 1 miss in each round of close combat. 10pts
    Daemonic Fire: 12” S4 SP 6 assault 2 5pts
    CCW: gives extra attack 1pt

    Total: 196

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    I don't think Demonic stature Lords can use pistols at all

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    ZigZagman is right, Statured Lords may only use a specific arsenal of weaponry, listed in the entry for D.Stature.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kensai X
    Wow I'll be the only Marine in this whole tourny and probably be killed in the first round... but at least I'm unique!
    Is my wolf lord not a marine anymore then?
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    No, no he's not he actually has halfway decent stats and everyone knows that Marines are supposed to lose in these tournaments...

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    noo soo hard .. reaaly sturggling to find something to defeat those dudes with.. was gonna go for a fun dude.. but i cna;t find anything fun that can compete ( unlike my 2 tau dudes)
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Wych archite
    Archite 60
    Agonizer 25: wounds on a 4+
    Combat drugs 25:
    Crucible of malediction 20: all pychers take a leadership test, if they fail they are removed. Within 12 inchs take the test at -1 leadership
    Shadow field 25: 2+I save until the first failed save then it goes away
    Hell mask 5: hit on a 6 unless opponents pass a leadership test
    Wych weapons: enemys less then S6 half WS, enemys never count as having 2 ccws
    Rever jetbkike: +1T
    Splinter pistol 1: 12 inch range, S3 AP5 pistol +1A
    Tormenter helm 5: 12 inch range, S3 AP5 pistol +1A

    WS6
    BS6
    S3
    T3/4
    W3
    I8
    A3/5
    LD9
    6+/2+I, 4+I in cc
    @ 196

    let me know if anything is wrong since I made it with army builder…
    for combat drugs always use: 1A, and reroll misses (I am kinda assuming the roller will know combat drugs aka roll a D6 for each, and on a double they take a wound, triple are killed outright.


    edited out the nurgle DP since there is already a bunch of DP and no one had put in a archon/archite.

    apearence: tall and slim with delicate features that hides tremendous strength. the archite fights with tremendous speed and skill, making attacks that are almost invisable to humans.
    the archon wears dark red, with silver decorations.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Commander X is correct, its instead of another shooting attack.
    Well crap. Entry will be edited to swap that for something useful.

    Edit: What about the Psychic Powers Sanctuary, and Word of the Emperor? Can they be used to keep any Daemons at bay allowing me to blast them with my Psycannon?
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