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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Crux
    Jorm the Carnifex (199 points)

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    Reinforced Chitin (+1 W, included)
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    Tusked (+2 attacks on charge)
    Crushing Claws (exchanges basic attacks for D6 attacks, included), Scything Talons (+1 attack, included)
    Flesh Hooks (Frag Grenades, count "vertically impassable" terrain as difficult terrain).

    Monstrous Creature (see page 55 of the BGB), Fearless (See page 74 of the BGB)
    He only appears to have one weapon, shouldn't he have 2?

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo34x
    He only appears to have one weapon, shouldn't he have 2?
    One pair of Crushing claws, one pair of Scything Talons... perfectly legal, as far as I'm aware.
    Three men check into a hotel. The room costs 25 dollars. They all give a ten-dollar bill to the portier, who runs down to the reception to get change, and comes back with five one-dollar bills. He gives one dollar back to each of the men, and gets two dollars in tip.

    So now, all the men have payed nine dollars each. 9 x 3 = 27, plus two dollars as tip.

    Where did the last dollar go?

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    It is, just the way you've put them on the same line as opposed to under one another makes it hard to spot the scything talons entry.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohhna
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    Oh hang on, is it too late to edit, I don't think the daemonic speed is actually going to do anything and I'll trade it in for Bionics if it isn't too late.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grey_painter
    It is, just the way you've put them on the same line as opposed to under one another makes it hard to spot the scything talons entry.
    Waah! Missed that part, when I wrote it up I did it all on one line, and then split it up into further lines... edited that part now.
    Three men check into a hotel. The room costs 25 dollars. They all give a ten-dollar bill to the portier, who runs down to the reception to get change, and comes back with five one-dollar bills. He gives one dollar back to each of the men, and gets two dollars in tip.

    So now, all the men have payed nine dollars each. 9 x 3 = 27, plus two dollars as tip.

    Where did the last dollar go?

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Can I reserve a spot?

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohhna
    Oh hang on, is it too late to edit, I don't think the daemonic speed is actually going to do anything and I'll trade it in for Bionics if it isn't too late.

    I don't think your going to get very much out of bionics in the super heavy weight AoD.

    Anyone who isn't able to ignore armor saves in close combat is going to be annihilated.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    I don't think your going to get very much out of bionics in the super heavy weight AoD.
    Well you'll certainly get more use out of Bionics than you will Daemonic Speed in an AoD. Who knows, you might get lucky and it'll save your skin. I think something as simple as a Frag Grenade has made the difference in a previous AoD battle.

    If Kohhna drops Daemonic Speed, he'll have 20pts to spend on other stuff... I'd definitely drop it, even if you don't have much to spend your 20pts on.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffin Magician
    Well you'll certainly get more use out of Bionics than you will Daemonic Speed in an AoD. Who knows, you might get lucky and it'll save your skin. I think something as simple as a Frag Grenade has made the difference in a previous AoD battle.

    If Kohhna drops Daemonic Speed, he'll have 20pts to spend on other stuff... I'd definitely drop it, even if you don't have much to spend your 20pts on.

    I bought bionics myself because I had 5 points left over and there was nothing else I could spend it on.

    But I bought it knowing it would be useless as everyones attacks in the super heavy ignore armor saves. Though I suppose on the off chance someone manages to shoot him and wound him with a bolt pistol and he fails his armor save, and rolls a 6 for bionics it could help

    However your quite right, he definitely should drop speed and use the points as best he can.
    Quote Originally Posted by malisteen on the new CSM Codex
    Whether or not you agree with the driving concept, there are things like lash, posessed, dreads who turn around to shoot their own guys, khorne lords as likely to kill themselves as anybody else, and several other options that are either blatantly the best or just unbearably bad, and poorly designed. I wouldn't have minded the new design philosophy if they had done a good job with it. I don't need the list to be powerful, I just don't want so many parts of it to be stupid.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quick Q: Something that came up in the Ursa thread. If you have 8 A + Rage of khorne, would it give you max 11 A or max out at 10 A since it's a "characteristic" that goes from 1-10?


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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    I don't think Rage of khorne is a characteristic increase, so even if there is a max # of attacks on the stat line he' get the bonus. Because its not part of his stats, its a One time bonus.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagMan
    I don't think Rage of khorne is a characteristic increase, so even if there is a max # of attacks on the stat line he' get the bonus. Because its not part of his stats, its a One time bonus.
    If you have a Venerable Dread with a dread CCW striking at S10 and give it Furious Charge, its S does not become 11 even though its a "one time bonus".

    A one time bonus to a characteristic, is still an increase to a characteristic.
    Quote Originally Posted by malisteen on the new CSM Codex
    Whether or not you agree with the driving concept, there are things like lash, posessed, dreads who turn around to shoot their own guys, khorne lords as likely to kill themselves as anybody else, and several other options that are either blatantly the best or just unbearably bad, and poorly designed. I wouldn't have minded the new design philosophy if they had done a good job with it. I don't need the list to be powerful, I just don't want so many parts of it to be stupid.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Yes, imo. I think it was mostly Toughness and strength, because weapons and enemy toughness can only stay within the 1-10 range, however things like attacks, and perhaps wounds (somehow) could probably go higher... My opinion, anyway. Also, it is only temporary, not a stat line. But that's just my opinion.
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly ruin
    If you have a Venerable Dread with a dread CCW striking at S10 and give it Furious Charge, its S does not become 11 even though its a "one time bonus".

    A one time bonus to a characteristic, is still an increase to a characteristic.
    Maybe So, but the charging bonus is extra attacks rolled in addition to the models normal attacks.
    Beside is the MAX 10 stat in the rulebook? (ie it says NO stat my go over a 10)
    or does it just give limits on certain things, like strength (would hate to see all those carnifexs insta-killed by a str 12 deamon prince)?

    You can have a venerable dreadnought with furious charge???????
    Last edited by ZigZagMan; 21-07-2005 at 13:06.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagMan
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    Beside is the MAX 10 stat in the rulebook? (ie it says NO stat my go over a 10)
    BGB pg. 12

    "All characteristics are measured on a scale of 0 to 10"

    It doesn't say anything else on the issue.



    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagMan
    You can have a venerable dreadnought with furious charge???????
    Space Marine Codex, pg. 32
    Quote Originally Posted by malisteen on the new CSM Codex
    Whether or not you agree with the driving concept, there are things like lash, posessed, dreads who turn around to shoot their own guys, khorne lords as likely to kill themselves as anybody else, and several other options that are either blatantly the best or just unbearably bad, and poorly designed. I wouldn't have minded the new design philosophy if they had done a good job with it. I don't need the list to be powerful, I just don't want so many parts of it to be stupid.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly ruin

    Space Marine Codex, pg. 32
    Yowza! Good to know

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    Okay what's the deal, In the rules message board the consensus was that ALL gifts of the gods count towards demonic gifts, and there was a link to a FAQ that clearly states this. It was a chapter approved article from before 4th edition, but unless a newer FAQ 'specifically' says otherwise, it's still in effect as far as I know.
    Last edited by Spoonie; 22-07-2005 at 08:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonie
    Okay what's the deal, In the rules message board the consensus was that ALL gifts of the gods count towards demonic gifts, and there was a link to a FAQ that clearly states this. It was a chapter approved article from before 4th edition, but unless a newer FAQ 'specifically' says otherwise, it's still in effect as far as I know.
    Give me a link to the faq and a page number, and ill change my post. Until then. (forgive the pun) no dice
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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    O’k I’ll take part if there’s some spots left.

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    S - 3
    T- 3
    W – 3
    I – 7
    A – 3
    Ld – 9
    Sv – 5+

    Costs 60 points.

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    Re: [40K - Official] Super Heavyweight Entry Thread

    I edited my entry again for a mistake I made with his Toughness.
    Quote Originally Posted by malisteen on the new CSM Codex
    Whether or not you agree with the driving concept, there are things like lash, posessed, dreads who turn around to shoot their own guys, khorne lords as likely to kill themselves as anybody else, and several other options that are either blatantly the best or just unbearably bad, and poorly designed. I wouldn't have minded the new design philosophy if they had done a good job with it. I don't need the list to be powerful, I just don't want so many parts of it to be stupid.

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