Hi,
I am going to be getting into LOTR when the new book hits (got to be better than 40k is right now)
Now I am not sure if I am doing this right but my planned 500pts will be - Theoden, Gamling, Eomer, Eowen, Merry and 10 Riders of Rohan.
Is there a mini of Eowen and merry on mount together (like in the film)
Also what do you think about my army (a bit Character heavy I know but I like the Idea behind it - That cavalry charge in the last film)
Thanks for the help,
You are right, LOTR is better than 40k
I love your army composition. I have played it myself a number of times. If you find that you need a few more riders, you can simply trade out one hero without too much trouble as well. I actually played in a tournament with a similar army: Eomer, Eowyn, Gamling w/standard plus about 18 riders of rohan and it went undefeated. The mobility proved very useful in the game. Also, just the theme of it rocks; too many people compose an army to win and don't bother sticking to themes!
There is no miniature of Eowyn mounted with Merry unfortunately. Also, there is no miniature of Eowyn with her helmet on, which is sad as well. But what can you do.
In any case, welcome to the hobby!
Neldoreth
No miniature at the moment, though you can easily make one by swapping the Eowyn's spear for a sword from the Royal Guard, then use the Fall of the Witch King Merry as he's fairly easy to convert to a seated position.
Thanks,
I wont be new to the hobby as such (13 years 40k/fantasy) but LOTR will be very new to me.
I will have a go at the conversion thanks Bro. Frog.
I figured I would buy the box set now that has the 10 Riders in and use GW's offer to trade in my rulebook.
I'm glad my theme is ok I was expecting to get ripped apart for being character heavy.
I had an Intro game at my store today and liked it alot, highlights are my Troll killing Faramir and my Orc archers hitting the wall every single time they shot, The only rule I was not keen on was iin combat I charged 4 Warg widers at Faramir and rolled some 6's (about 5 of them) he rolled a 4 and used might to up it to 6 so he beat me, just seemed odd at the time that 4 cavalry could so easily be beaten without doing any damage back but looking back a Hero in the movie would have done a similer thing and you dont want them dieing easily to normal troops. (Guess that is what Might is ment to represent) anyway he got what was coming to him when he met Mr Troll.
No problem.Originally Posted by Lardidar
I'm sure you'll find LotR refreshing, quick, and a lot more fun than the other games.
Well, it has a few more characters than I personally use, but there is nothing wrong with the army you have chosen...
Do not worry about your force being a bit character heavy. It makes it a lot more useable in scenarios which are character heavy.
It's odd as since LOTR came out I have been a bit of a hater but since reading the 'calling out' thread here I realise how retarded I was being and now cant wait to get into a new game.
Is it a lot more scenario based? or is it like a Fantasy pitched battle?
Either way it will be nice to play something new.
You can just play a pitched battle, which can be quite fun, but I would suggest you try out some of the scenarios using your own army (not the forces they tell you to). The LotR scenarios are a lot more interesting than the 40K or WFB ones.
Ahh,
The way it was told to me in store is that each game had set forces.
Its cool that you can take your own armies.
Play thru what would have happened if the ring had been given to Theoden to take Mt. Doom ....... Interesting
There are a number of ways in which the game can be played. Essentially it was intended to be a scenario based game, where the scenario determines exactly what forces you use, how you deploy them and so on.
Each scenario also includes a "points match" bit, which allows you to play the scenario with alternate forces you pick yourself. Doesn't always work as well, but is an option.
And because a lot of gamers (and the designers) are veteran wargamers who enjoy playing pitched battles (and tournaments) rules for generic pitched battles were also added. It's a very open set of rules, so you can do pretty much anything with it, though of course not everything will work equally well.
As for your starting army, it's a good way to start. The Rohirrim are one of the most important armies in the story, so they'll come in handy in a number of different scenarios. Having a lot of heroes isn't a bad thing in this game, and it has the advantage of limiting the number of miniatures you need to finish initially.
Personally I'd exchange Eomer for some more riders and/or Royal Guard, which gives you more numbers, and also focusses the theme around one part of the action on the Pelennor. Gamling was of course part of the King's guard, and Eowyn stayed close to her uncle, but Eomer meanwhile led his own éored into some other part of the battle.
Good point, Were the royal guard part of that battle?
I'll be having a watch of all 3 movies over the next month to help decide on my Evil army but I like Lurtz so maybe the battle by the river when Boromir dies (I aint that up on names of places .... Amon Hen?)
It hasn't been mentioned yet, but if you are going to use cavalry, you MUST have the same models on foot. That is, you will need some warriors of Rohan to represent your dehorsed riders. Obviously, the same goes for your characters too.
Yes, LotR is a game where mounts can be shot out from under you!
Royal Guard are all over the place in the movie, whenever there are Rohirrim, there are Royal Guards. They were definitely at the Pelennor, and most of them should have been near Théoden.
And yes, the battle of Amon Hen is the one you're thinking of. While there are plastic Uruk-hai (which you also get in the TTT box), these aren't strictly speaking the same as the ones at Amon Hen. But Uruk-hai have a high points cost, so especially if you take a decent number of heroes you wouldn't need that many anyway.
You might want to concider collecting your forces in pairs, that is to say a Good and Evil army both from the same battle. That way you can simultaneously build 'points match' armies and fill the requirements for certain scenarios. It adds to the theme and display value as well.
Since you'll have Théoden, Eowyn and Merry, the Witch-King would make a good choice as the leader of the evil army. You could then take Haradrim and/or Orcs, but I'd recommend Orcs to start with because they can be used in lots of scenarios.
Yes. Look out for Dark Angels Green cloaks (rather than the Catachan Green ones of the bog standard riders).
About the Uruk Hai I mentioned in another thread that they are now being split into two troop types. One as scouts that are led by Lurts and then Ugluk and wear minimal armour and so their points value will be cheap. Or the fully armoured besigeing armour worn by the Uruks which attack Helms Deep and will be on par with Elves for points cost.
Also if you do go for the Witch King, go for the boxset with him in armour as it allows you to get Eowyn and Merry at the same time.
Will do,
Ill write up 2 armies later and post here.
Is 500pts the Norm? what are the grand tournaments?
Makes sense to go for the TTT box as it gives both Uruk hai and Rohan riders and then I can do trade thing with GW to get the new rule book.
Cheers
Edit - what orcs are at pelanor? also are the easterlings there as I love there models (time to watch ROTK I think)
Easterlings weren't in the film but they were in the book.
(Easterlings didn't appear because they would have to be in a scene where they're killed and that would up the rating of the movie (PG, 12A, 15, etc). Funnily enough, any amount of Orc blood could of been seen in the movie, it's just that Human blood would put the age rating for it.)
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500 points is about average for points matched forces. As the rules say that you need to take a good and an evil force culminating at 1000 points in total.
not on horse but theres a set with merry and eowyn on foot and ewyn only on mounted horse
They are! If you look carefully at Minas Tirith after Mordor has invaded the city, you can see some Easterlings jogging by in the background.
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