Lack0F & EoST Build a Reaver Titan

[lack0fbettername]

Lack0FBetterName & Eater of Small Things Build a Reaver Titan

So following the success of the Warhound Titan I made, and high demand and successful reproductions of the Warhound made all over the world from my templates we have decided to build a bigger titan.

After multiple Baneblade type scratch builds and the Warhound I was all but burnt out on super heavies for the time being until a scratch building daemon at the game shop suggested that we endeavor to build a larger scale of titan. I decided that I was in, as a scratch build of this size is a lot less daunting when you have other people to kick ideas off of, as well as share the load of construction/painting and cost. We have also enlisted the aid of a guy at the game shop named hyde who said he would be the official “head of rivet-cutting division”. (We have a servitor)

Construction on this project is slated to begin at end of September. So the next few weeks this thread will be mainly for bouncing idea out into the warseer world, as well as posting pictures of the plans, 3d images, & prototypes we come up with. At the end of this project we will have a set of templates very similar to the ones for the warhound.

The plans & 3D’s will be very similar to what was done of the first few pages of my project log (see link below).

The Eaters Log = http://warseer.com/forums/science-fi...-the-dumb.html (Includes scratchbuilt warhound, malcador, Aquilla lander)

Lack0fBettername’s Log = http://warseer.com/forums/science-fi...er-things.html (Includes scratchbuilt warhound, 2x baneblades, ShadowSword)

We are also going to try to stay pretty close to the epic/armourcast reaver. None of us have nether of these models so we are working off pictures. Our scaling off of pictures seams to be pretty accurate and our size seams to be in line with what I expect it should be. If anyone out there with the armourcast titan could give us some dimensions to check against that would be a big help. I have read online that the reaver varies from 18-21” tall depending on how it is built, is this true?

Thanks
-Lack0F

[lack0fbettername]

Ok got some work done on it, including a mostly done front elevation view, and a partial 3D model of the legs.

My ACAD schetch comes to just at 6" Diameter feet, 10" from center of foot to center of foot.

Its 10" from table to the waist, just at 17 & 1/4" to top of carapace and 20 & 1/4" to top of missile pod.

Thoughts?

[Marovian]

I have some thoughts: Wow. Cor Blimey. And, oh yes, FANTASTIC. Will watch to see how this turns out.

[Eater of Small Things]

Hey, folks.

I don't have much to contribute at this time as we're both quickly trying to finish myriad other projects for the upcoming mega-battle at our local store.

I will talk in brief about some thoughts on the Reaver Titan design. As Lack0f stated earlier, we're planning to keep this design as true to the old version as possible. The original Reaver looks a lot like a crab tucked under its shell, but with a head that appears to be more like a pig's, or warthog's. Add a pair of beefy legs and you've already got a great visual of how this is going to look.

I haven't researched much into the background on Reavers, but in comparison to the Warhound, which is used as a scout, they look like they should be compartively slow, ponderous missile platforms. They're also typically equipped with the titan-equivalent of a power-fist-- for tearing down fortifications, perhaps?

[asmodai_dark86]

And battering other titans of course :d

Ill be keeping an eye on this, although I'd rather you tried to bring it in line with say, the Mars pattern, which has the classic curved look but updated.

[G.Hawke]

I have read online that the reaver varies from 18-21” tall depending on how it is built, is this true?

Yep,

basic scales for titan:

Warhound: 1ft
Reaver: 18"
Warlord: 2ft
Imperator/Emperor classes: 3ft and onwards

Btw, looking food, this should be mega!

god i hope i never use Mega! in that way again....

Hawke

[Scanno]

Looks great, scale sounds perfect. Jealous of your CAD skills. Subscribin'.

[lack0fbettername]

You think this is good, you should see what i actualy have to do for work... Anyhoot, I Hope to have some more stuff up ether tommorow or monday by latest.

[lack0fbettername]

Updated, With Video

So i did some more work, i had alot of trouble with the upper legs, and i currently think that the waist area is to long front to back. I think it should be more circular. This is modeled with one leg forward and one leg backwards, so it looks like it just finished taking a step.

What yall think?

[Merceus]

Is there going to be an actual break down of all angles and measurements of every surface? To me, thats the only way other people could use the plans easily and effectively... but then I'm just lazy...

[scarab_cake]

As ever, LackOfbettername continues to impress...
I will keep wating this, and i can't wait to see the end result. keep up the good work!

[lack0fbettername]

Merces, you are correct, movies & pics like these are only to help with planning and get and idea of what it looks like. As well as to get feedback from warseer.

There will eventualy be templates in the same fasion as the warhound, they will be the latest installment in my growing line of JSV templates (which currently include warhound, baneblade, malcador & thunderbolt). However before we get there, me and the eater need to design them first, then we will build it from the templates.

After that (in the same fasion as the warhound) ill put them on BWC.

[Grobrotz]

Here are some pictures that may help you.
They are for a Dawn of War Mod I found on the net as I searched for Reaver images.
Maybe you could make a mix of both Titan types as the new one looks more like he could actually walk.
It may be also easier to be build as the new one has not so many round corners.
You can still use the feet you made, only the other parts need a redo.
Will you also make plans for a Warlord?? (PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!)
It will have official rules in the Apocalypse book.

[BDJV]

I'll be watching this project closely!

[lack0fbettername]

Grobotz is there a model of this type of titan?

[Grobrotz]

Yes, it is the actuall Forge World Epic Model
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog...TITANS_24.html
just scroll down the page.
Some other Pictures:
one of the Epicmodel and one of a Model built by a german guy
http://www.coolminiornot.com/94540

[lack0fbettername]

Well Grobrotz, i think we have a decision to make, ill talk it over with the eater.

[Sons of Russ]

Here are some pictures that may help you.
They are for a Dawn of War Mod I found on the net as I searched for Reaver images.
Maybe you could make a mix of both Titan types as the new one looks more like he could actually walk.
It may be also easier to be build as the new one has not so many round corners.
You can still use the feet you made, only the other parts need a redo.
Will you also make plans for a Warlord?? (PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!)
It will have official rules in the Apocalypse book.

the head should be far more forward, the back of the head almost meshing with the front overhang armour.

I'll see if I can dig up my old Epic Reavers and get a pic for you.

[Eater of Small Things]

Hmm... it's an interesting choice we have to make here.

On one hand:
The version that Grobrotz found is more angular, which will be easier to develop into a template. Also, it's clunky, like a bunch of boxes that fit together, which definately fits into the background for how the Imperium typically designs vehicles. And from a realistic perspective, we can make more sense of how it's actually supposed to walk because we can see its knee joints. I also think the shoulder armor makes more sense as it's not hovering above the arms, but actually connected to the dorsal carapace.

On the other hand, we've been developing everything up to this point to fit the bill for the 'classic' reaver. The older model is more organic-looking, with a lot of curved surfaces. It actually has a lot in common with a space marine's suit, which I personally enjoy the appearance of.

Both versions have an absurdly small waist, which doesn't do well to balance out all that armor and firepower on the upper carriage. So the result is that both versions end up looking very static in their pose. I like Lack0f's rendering the best (see video animation in post #9) because it has an elongated waist that could better support all that weight.

That being said, I'm leaning toward the classic model, as those huge leg greaves and lack of visible knees actually look like they can support the upper half of the reaver better than the boxy version.

What say the rest of you?

[sheep]

I personally like the New FW version of the reaver, as you stated it looks more like Current Imperial Tech level, all the flat surfaces and angles make it look abit more "angry" or agressive too.

I really like where this is going regardless of you descision on the Mk of reaver.

Cheers

Sheep