High Elf army book rumours

[Avian]

Very temporary, as the book seems to be out early 2008 sometime.

Expected models include a new cavalry set, with options for all three types of elven cav as well as the new plastic Dragon. The Dragon is lying horizontal on the base, in a similar style to the old Citadel Dragon Master model. (Source: 75hastings69)

Expect cheaper and/or better infantry, more expensive cavalry, the removal (or at least near removal) of 0-1 selections and fewer things that are 1-2 per Special or Rare - judging by the recent army books...

[verydarkshadow]

Well I said I'd start up a second thread once the old one hit 1000 posts. Considering the ratio of pages-to-rumors I think it would be best to continue discussion here. Many thanks to all you who contributed to the previous incantation of this thread. The rumors from the 'pointy-eared horde of doom' are summarized bellow:

C - Confirmned rumor
H - Generally accepted, high probabilty it's accurate
U - Unconfirmed
D - Disputed and unconfirmed

The Round Up, as of Dec 19th, 2006

C - High Elves are being released after empire

H - Released late spring / early summer

H - Book by Adam Troke

H - I@C will be removed

H - All High Elf Units strike in initiative order (thanks to therisnosaurus)

H - New sketchs of the LSG have been spotted, 'Gnarly High Elf Pirates'. (thanks again to therisnosaurus)

H - Some old unit(s) are being brought back

H - There will be a new unit that causes fear

H - Swordmasters are getting a powerful upgrade

H - There will be a chariot model with White Lions pulling it, HOWEVER there is no confirmation if it's a unit, special character or what. There is a model. It is for High Elves.

Note: This appears to be a reflection of the approach GW is taking towards Fantasy in general to clearly distinguish the races from 'human history'. "Expect more of these units" (thanks to shoggoth)

H - Tyron, Teclis, Imrik are back; however, there will be 5 special characters total

U - Points cost for spearelves and Lothern Sea Gaurd has been decreased. (thanks to Rekmar)

U - Points cost for some special and rare units has been reduced (thanks to Rekmar again)

U - Cavalry points cost has been increased (thank you Rekmar)

U - There will be new magic items (thanks to Rekmar)

D - Drake riders may make an appearance as unit options

D - May see the HE magical items cost brought in line with other races

D - There may be a new griffon model (I pulled this one from another fantasy thread found off Google the other day)


Discuss!

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Discussion here

[Shoggoth]

i could confirm that Drake riders will be out from the book

Cavatore said:"We already know the mistake done with Pegasus riders for Brets,we will not continue in this way..no drakes riders for HE"

And also:

"..but the He Prince on Dragon...well....let's say that it could get a very very nasty big magic lance to strike down enemy units...hint hint..."

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Discussion here

[Harry]

The book exists as a word document at this stage. It has not even started to be made shiney yet.
Whilst it is possible that some of these rumours may be coming from 'better than average' sources and are based on 'snippets' of information from the current draft version of the book, any and all of these 'details' are subject to change.
The fact is only the writer of the book really knows what is 'solid' and will be 'in' and what he is still 'undecided' about and may yet change and he may even change his mind about this!
The only truely reliable source's name (at this stage) begins with 'A' (and ends with dam Troke).... and so far he has posted no rumours.

Originally Posted by Harry

This thread has developed much like the other High Elf thread.
We are nowhere!
The whole High Elf debate started to soon for a rumour thread.
There simply is not enough solid info about because we are still over six months away the folk that do know stuff are not posting it. I said a looooong time ago (on the other thread) not to start looking for High Elf rumours until after the Empire release,

Only about 50% of the list at the start is correct.

What can be gleaned from these threads is.

High Elves are next.
Adam Troke is writting the book.
Adam has not finished yet.

The Empire release 13 January
The Watchman release 15 January

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Discussion here

[Brimstone]

Originally Posted by verydarkshadow

H - New sketchs of the LSG have been spotted, 'Gnarly High Elf Pirates'. (thanks again to therisnosaurus)

Ah the Lothern Sea Guard, a metal unit including a peg legged standard bearer, a commander with a Sea Eagle and a champion with twin whaling spears and eye patch.

I love GW's pirate fixation

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Discussion here

[Sylass]

According to Freenut the HE book will indeed be the next to be released. Release date is rumoured to be December 2007:

Originally Posted by Freenut

I know this might or might not be news to some, as I know most of this has already been reported by Harry and others, but I have been told that High Elves are indeed the next army to be released as Vampire counts have been pushed back because of problems with the scults. Bad news is the will not be released until December. Except for the time of release I know this is fairly old news. Before that that will be a loads of new stuff release first such as buildings, new rules sets, new models, etc. I am fairly sure about thes rumors reliable but make of it what you will.

Discussion here.

[Avian]

Some more rumours:

Originally Posted by Dosadi

Alright, got some HE dirt!

All 0-1 limitations are gone (like every other army)

Spearmen come with heavy armour and shield.

Archers shoot with an extra rank if they don't move.

Silverhelms are unchanged or I got no info on them.

Sea Guard are now Special, come with light armour (they fight on water after all), spear, long bow and shields. Fight in three ranks, shoot in two, the commander can take magic items and the unit can take a magic banner. Some sort of Ambush rule for them like Dwarf Miners or Beastmen.

The following HE units will be getting Ilthilmar Plate (4+ save)

Swordmasters
Phoenix Guard
Dragon Princes
White Lions

Giant Eagles and chariots are no longer 2 for 1.

Apparently Phoenix Guard will now be Unbreakable and have 2 attacks each.

Swordmasters are -1 to hit with missile weapons S5 or less. They get some special sword fighting forms as well.

Heroes can ride dragons!

Everqueen is back with her maidenguard (no new models I've been told).

Can't remember what else I was told, if it comes to me, I'll pass it on.

Dosadi

[Sylass]

Tthe rumours from the previous post have all been discounted by a poster (rumoured to be a playtester) on Asur.org:

http://www.asur.org.uk/ulthuan/viewtopic.php?t=18771

*edit*
Seems he deleted his postings again...

[Sylass]

A few more rumours compiled by Harry:

Originally Posted by Harry

So as yet another High Elf thread is moved to General Fantasy discussion, as it spirals out of control off topic, here, by way of a fresh start, is everything we have got so far on High Elves.

Lets try and keep this on on topic (and in the rumour section!) and I will try and keep this first page up to date with any new (confirmed) information as it becomes available.

High Elf release: November: Book and Army Box set.

THE BOOK : written by Adam Troke (I presume with input from the rest of the games developers).

Intrigue at court is gone.
Elves strike first. (Army rule).
Archers can fire in two ranks.
Special Characters include (There could be more but I have not heard it) :
Tyrion, Teclis, Eltharion and Alith Anar as Lords
Korhil and Caradryan (Captain of the Phoenix Guard) as Heroes.
There will be three other ‘vanilla’/generic Hero options. (So a new Character type!)
There will be three types of Dragon in the book.

THE MINIS

Plastic kits: Mostly by Martin Footit.

Characters/Heroes/Commanders (Makes 2 characters one mounted and one on foot).
High Elf Mages (Makes two mages one mounted and one on foot).
Plastic Dragon kit. (75Hastings69 posted this on warseer months ago. Flying horizontally like the old Dragon Masters dragon (for those who remember that far back). It will come with various rider options to represent different character options who can ride it.
Spearmen. (I do not think this includes option for Lothern Sea Guard or armoured archers but possibly able to customise these to represent different provinces).
High Elf Cavalry Plastics. (These were rumoured months ago by 75Hastings69 but I have heard nothing).
Plastic Chariot kit with option of Lion steeds. (Dave Thomas)

Metal

Alith Anar. (Gary Morley).
Possibly a new eagle.
Lothern Sea guard including a Sea guard Captain/Commander with a Sea hawk on his wrist and a standard bearer with a carved wooden leg. The art work for the seaguard is a lot more ‘gritty’ than the old look. (More ‘sea dog’ than Sea Elf!) I don’t know if these are part of a bigger ‘redo’ of the Sea Guard models or not.

If you ask me striking first as a general army rule for HE just sounds insanely good...

Discussion here.

[Avian]

The GW release schedule lists the following High Elf releases:


5. nov 2007
- High Elves army book $22 (£12?) NEW
- High Elf reinforcement battalion (rumoured to be one of each plastic set - i.e 2x commander, 2x mage, chariot, dragon) $90 (£50?) NEW
- High Elf mage and archmage box (2 plastic mage models, mounted and on foot) $22 (£12?) NEW
- High Elf Phoenix Guard command (5 model metal box?) $22 (£12?) NEW
- High Elf Phoenix Guard (5 model metal box?) $20 (£12?) NEW

12. nov 2007
- High Elf Alith Anar the Shadow King (1 metal model) $15 (£8?) NEW
- High Elf Prince and Noble (2 plastic models, mounted and on foot) $22 (£12?) NEW
- High Elf Shadow Walker (1 metal model) $8 (£5?) OLD?
- High Elf Shadow Warriors (5 metal model box?) $20 (£12?) OLD?

19. nov 2007
- High Elf Korhil, Captain of the White Lions (1 metal figure) $15 (£8?) NEW?
- High Elf Chariot (1 plastic model) $25 (£15?) NEW
- High Elf White Lions command (5 metal model box?) $22 (£12?) OLD?
- High Elf White Lions (5 metal model box?) $20 (£12?) OLD?

26. nov 2007
- High Elf Caradryan, Hero of the Phoenix Guard (1 metal model) $15 (£8?) NEW
- High Elf Swordmasters command (5 metal model box?) $22 (£12?) OLD?
- High Elf Swordmasters (5 metal model box?) $20 (£12?) OLD?

3. des 2007
- High Elf Dragonlord (1 model plastic box) $45 (£25?) NEW


Later releases are highly probably but not know at this time. However, as there are no further HE releases for the five weeks after des 3., it might be some time before the second wave of releases.
Any information is welcome!

[Sylass]

Thanks to Meraklis we got a picture of what looks like the upcoming HE lion chariot. Great miniature if you ask me.

Discussion here.

[Sylass]

Meralkis strikes back: We now got a picture of the upcoming HE plastic mage set.

From this angle the mounted version looks somewhat odd (what's with the hat?), but the mage on foot looks great.

Discussion here.

[Avian]

And thanks to Meraklis, we have a picture of the new plastic dragon:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...edragoniq2.png

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...onriderou4.png

[Sylass]

New HE previews from the GW site:

[Sylass]

Thanks to Slacker for a rumour about the content of the upcoming HE army box:

Originally Posted by Slacker

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I'm not digging through 1700 posts for something that's two sentences long.

The High Elf army deal is dropping on 10/22 with an American price tag of $195. It'll have the book (obviously), the new Prince/Noble kit, the new Archmage/Mage kit, 24 Archers, 30 Spearmen, 8 Silver Helms, 2 Bolt Throwers, and 1 of the new chariots.

The only thing this says to me is that the bolt throwers are probably staying 2 for 1 choice.

[Avian]

Painted Dragon pic from Asur.org
http://www.asur.org.uk/ulthuan/viewt...771&start=1890

[Sylass]

Thanks to Dr Death for posting a picture of what looks like the cover of the upcoming HE army book.

Discussion here.

[Sylass]

A couple of new HE pictures taken at the GD2007 UK today. Credits to Kaine for taking the pics.

Discussion here

[Sylass]

Thanks to liggu for this find (picture of the HE army box!)

Content:
plastic lord set
plastic mage set
32 spearmen
24 archers
8 silver helms
2 bolt throwers
new chariot

[Sylass]

Artwork from upcoming the HE book: