2000pts Hell Pit

polymphus · 06-11-2009, 22:31

Wait! Bandwagon, don't leave without me!

So I picked up my skaven book today and I've been taking a flick through. Good news and bad news it seems. One, my 180 odd old clanrat models are now feeling bloody silly. Two, holycrapIcanrunahellpitlist. Warning, those adverse to Ctrl V might want to avert their eyes. Without further ado, Hell Pit.

Lords

Throt the Unclean
225pts

Heroes

Warlock Engineer
Lvl1 Wizard
2 Dispel Scrolls
100pts

Warlock Engineer
Lvl1 Wizard
2 Dispel Scrolls
100pts

Core

3 Rat Ogres
1 Packmaster
128pts

3 Rat Ogres
1 Packmaster
128pts

24 Giant Rats
4 Packmasters
104pts

24 Giant Rats
4 Packmasters
104pts

24 Giant Rats
4 Packmasters
104pts

24 Giant Rats
4 Packmasters
104pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

6 Giant Rats
1 Packmaster
24pts

2 Rat Swarms
50pts

2 Rat Swarms
50pts

20 Slaves
40pts

20 Slaves
40pts

20 Slaves
40pts

20 Slaves
40pts

Rare

Hell Pit Abomination
Warpstone Spikes
250pts

Hell Pit Abomination
Warpstone Spikes
250pts

Lots of fleeing from charges and flanking, backed up by some heavy hitters in the form of abominations and rat ogres.

Thoughts?
Poly

Buddha777 · 06-11-2009, 22:57

Holy crap in a pita that is alot of rats!

Well I can't see anything wrong with the list except I hope you play on large boards becuase that many units will be very hard to maneuver. In particular your MSU of giant rats seem like they will be lost in terms of any advantage of movement. Might be best just to combine them with your other units of giant rats.

Also, I know its lame to suggest power listing, but the storm banner could help protect your abominations as they advance.

Paraelix · 07-11-2009, 02:52

Bleh. I fought 1 Hellpit and 1 doomwheel yesterday, and they brought about my demise. The Hellpit should be more expensive... Barely more than a Giant and has Regen, come back from dead, can get magic attacks and ward save... and can't fall over. wtf. Oh, and its attacks heal it >_>

After 3 rounds of combat with my Chosen it had lost and regained 2 wounds with 2 rounds of Feed and the last round it rolled a 6 for its attacks and landed 10 S6 hits on my unit. ;-;

EDIT- Try and put Skweel in as well... He's hardcore- Rat Ogre units with 5 attacks, poison or Regen D:

polymphus · 07-11-2009, 04:54

You know, I think your opponent was lying to you there. I've got the book in front of me and the ABomb can't get a ward save, nor does it recover wounds from causing them.

EviIPaladin · 07-11-2009, 05:45

Skweel = Win. You need to find him somewhere in your Hell Pit list. But put him with the GRats; all of his abilities compliment them rather than just two.

-Evii

Ward. · 07-11-2009, 07:31

Originally Posted by polymphus

Thoughts?

I think you lack character support, a chieftain with a banner or normal warlord on bonebreaker mount would add some much needed punch.

Originally Posted by Paraelix

After 3 rounds of combat with my Chosen it had lost and regained 2 wounds with 2 rounds of Feed and the last round it rolled a 6 for its attacks and landed 10 S6 hits on my unit. ;-;

You were doing it wrong.

StormCrow · 07-11-2009, 07:51

I'd love to play this army, looks like lots of fun! Well done

Like others have mentioned the only thing I'd do would be to add skweel Gnawtooth

06-11-2009, 22:31	#1
polymphus Chapter Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Going down swinging. Posts: 1,224 iTrader: (0)	2000pts Hell Pit Wait! Bandwagon, don't leave without me! So I picked up my skaven book today and I've been taking a flick through. Good news and bad news it seems. One, my 180 odd old clanrat models are now feeling bloody silly. Two, holycrapIcanrunahellpitlist. Warning, those adverse to Ctrl V might want to avert their eyes. Without further ado, Hell Pit. Lords Throt the Unclean 225pts Heroes Warlock Engineer Lvl1 Wizard 2 Dispel Scrolls 100pts Warlock Engineer Lvl1 Wizard 2 Dispel Scrolls 100pts Core 3 Rat Ogres 1 Packmaster 128pts 3 Rat Ogres 1 Packmaster 128pts 24 Giant Rats 4 Packmasters 104pts 24 Giant Rats 4 Packmasters 104pts 24 Giant Rats 4 Packmasters 104pts 24 Giant Rats 4 Packmasters 104pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 6 Giant Rats 1 Packmaster 24pts 2 Rat Swarms 50pts 2 Rat Swarms 50pts 20 Slaves 40pts 20 Slaves 40pts 20 Slaves 40pts 20 Slaves 40pts Rare Hell Pit Abomination Warpstone Spikes 250pts Hell Pit Abomination Warpstone Spikes 250pts Lots of fleeing from charges and flanking, backed up by some heavy hitters in the form of abominations and rat ogres. Thoughts? Poly __________________ ++Fluff/Painting Log++Role Playing++Wellington Wargaming++ ++Zombie Lincoln vs. The Capital Wasteland++ ++Kids, say no to suboptimal crisis suit configurations! Friends don't let friends use fireknives!++

06-11-2009, 22:57	#2
Buddha777 Commander Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Eternity Gate Posts: 628 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit Holy crap in a pita that is alot of rats! Well I can't see anything wrong with the list except I hope you play on large boards becuase that many units will be very hard to maneuver. In particular your MSU of giant rats seem like they will be lost in terms of any advantage of movement. Might be best just to combine them with your other units of giant rats. Also, I know its lame to suggest power listing, but the storm banner could help protect your abominations as they advance. __________________ "But I being poor have only my dreams. Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams." ~ Yeats

07-11-2009, 02:52	#3
Paraelix Commander Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Aus Posts: 759 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit Bleh. I fought 1 Hellpit and 1 doomwheel yesterday, and they brought about my demise. The Hellpit should be more expensive... Barely more than a Giant and has Regen, come back from dead, can get magic attacks and ward save... and can't fall over. wtf. Oh, and its attacks heal it >_> After 3 rounds of combat with my Chosen it had lost and regained 2 wounds with 2 rounds of Feed and the last round it rolled a 6 for its attacks and landed 10 S6 hits on my unit. ;-; EDIT- Try and put Skweel in as well... He's hardcore- Rat Ogre units with 5 attacks, poison or Regen D: __________________ Lizardmen 2000pts W- 6; D- 2; L- 0; Tzeentch Heavy Infantry W-2; D-1; L-3; Latest Game- WoC deathstar. 15 Chosen (6x3) with a Warshrine giving boosts and with an Exalted BSB, Banner of Rage, Magic Res, Festus, and Sigvald in its front rank.

07-11-2009, 04:54	#4
polymphus Chapter Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Going down swinging. Posts: 1,224 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit You know, I think your opponent was lying to you there. I've got the book in front of me and the ABomb can't get a ward save, nor does it recover wounds from causing them. __________________ ++Fluff/Painting Log++Role Playing++Wellington Wargaming++ ++Zombie Lincoln vs. The Capital Wasteland++ ++Kids, say no to suboptimal crisis suit configurations! Friends don't let friends use fireknives!++

07-11-2009, 05:45	#5
EviIPaladin Veteran Sergeant Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 115 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit Skweel = Win. You need to find him somewhere in your Hell Pit list. But put him with the GRats; all of his abilities compliment them rather than just two. -Evii

07-11-2009, 07:31	#6
Ward. Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,066 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit Originally Posted by polymphus Thoughts? I think you lack character support, a chieftain with a banner or normal warlord on bonebreaker mount would add some much needed punch. Originally Posted by Paraelix After 3 rounds of combat with my Chosen it had lost and regained 2 wounds with 2 rounds of Feed and the last round it rolled a 6 for its attacks and landed 10 S6 hits on my unit. ;-; You were doing it wrong. __________________ Originally Posted by ZeroTwentythree Yes, you're absolutely right. It's the ignorant, brainwashed masses who haven't realized the dire consequences of the 4+ ward save on weapons teams. You are like the lone upholder of the truth, a beacon of light, carrying the message of how that ward save will fend off 28 bow shots, ruining everybody's games and destroying the fun of warhammer for one and all.

07-11-2009, 07:51	#7
StormCrow Chapter Master Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: si-da-nee, AU Posts: 1,094 iTrader: (0)	Re: 2000pts Hell Pit I'd love to play this army, looks like lots of fun! Well done Like others have mentioned the only thing I'd do would be to add skweel Gnawtooth __________________ I am the son of Aenarion, and where my blade falls, death follows. Simply swear oaths of fealty to me and I will save your city. I am the prince of Nagarythe, and where I march, the undying will of my kingdom follows. If I so command it, this city will not fall!

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