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Old 05-11-2009, 13:22   #101
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Originally Posted by Beastlord Karankawa View Post
On a different note - any rumors that hounds / ungors (in herds) will NOT cause panic in other units (or own herd if in a herd)?
It's assumed that Warhounds won't. Ungors not causing Panic could be... confusing, considering they're part of a combined unit. If the occasionally-wishlisted, never-actually-rumoured Ungor Skirmisher unit comes to fruition, then maybe.

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Any rumor that there will be more weapon options for the gors of a herd (aka great weapons or flails or even spears)?
No. Great weapons are the preserve of the Bestigor, and there's no rumour of flails or spears.
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Old 05-11-2009, 17:56   #102
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If you want spell casting mino I would continue to pray that the tzeentch mark makes our characters warrior mages, but that probably won't happen.
No spellcasting Minotaurs, I'm afraid, except for the special character. And he may-or-may-not be a Champion rather than a Character.

Quote As for the stone statues, why not? We have tree's coming to life being possessed by daemons. We have a gorgon that can turn you to stone by looking at you possibly. We have chaos spawn and other craziness including but not limited to scaley skin mutations. What's wrong with the idea of having something different that no other has?
1. Actually we don't have that. Yet. Also, living trees are an established part of the fantasy setting. Evil living trees aren't exactly a stretch. Besides, they live in evil forests. Hence - evil trees. If they lived in evil castles, then evil gargoyles would seem logical. But they don't, so they're not.
2. No, we don't. The Gorgon is a big mutated bull-thing that breaths petrifying or poisonous smoke - not a lady with snakes in her hair that turns people to stone by looking at you.
3. Again, Chaos Army, hence Chaos Spawn. If it were a Stone Army, then Stone Spawn would be welcome.
4. Yes, animated statues are totally unique.

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Besides, basic gors with wings sound dumb to me. I will just use the fury models and call them furies. Which is exactly what they are.
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Lame... So basically you're saying they are gors with wing mutations. Which means I'll be buying up more herd boxes, and fury wings and doing some attachment work. Not very exciting. At that point I'll just be buying furies since they look just as cool and fit the role.
I never said they were gors with wings (even though that's basically what actual gargoyles are). Besides in all likelihood they won't be getting new models, so do whatever you want with them - harpies, furies, winged beastmen, b,irdmen, giant mutant hunting birds, oversized insects, flying pigs, or, yes, animated statues.

Maybe your Beastman inhabit a ruined old Imperial watchtower or Bretonnian castle. There's nothing stopping you from having gargoyles torn from its battlements animated by the Bray-Shaman of your herd with crude daubings and magical warpaint, perching on herdstones rather than castle walls. Hell, theme your whole army around it - equip your beastmen with looted and rusting weaponry from the castle's old armoury, their banners mouldy tapestries from the same. Use cut-up sprues and grass to create bases covered in overgrown rubble and cobblestones, with the occasional fallen statue on a minotaur base.

But don't ask those of us with vanilla dark forest beasts, or those of us who've themed their force around swamps or deserts or caves or plains or mountains or anywhere other than a castle to have to use a unit that makes no sense.

Of course, it's still only a rumour. They might not be in the list at all.
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:51   #103
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Lil' Birdie told me about a Plastic Minotauren Set for the same price as the new Tyranid Raveners, and new Bestigors from plastic the same price like Goldswords (urgs on that... I'm sorry for you guys as I don't see them in 20 men... goats... whatever... boxes at that price level.)

It appears also that Gors and Ungors will be seperated due to uncontrolled breeding resulting in the birth of things to terrible to name them...

No, but they will be sold in seperate boxes.

New metal Miniatures include a new beast and a Doom Bell... No wait, a Taco Bull.. I should not post when I'm hungry... a Doom Bull, that was ist.

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Edit: Though there's a lot of (after reviewing it, I admit it's bad) humor, the facts are real. Enjoy =)
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:03   #104
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Originally Posted by Devil Tree View Post
I find it hard to take any of the other rumors in your post seriously.
Well you should.

Provisional rundown on the upcoming releases for Beastmen - I'm a little pushed for time right now - will try and get specifics later...

Doombull (Metal Box) - TBD
Grulgor* (Metal Box) - TBD
Gors (Plastic Box) - TBD
Ungors (Plastic Box) - TBD
Bestigors (Plastic Box) - 32,50 €
Minotaurs (Plastic Box) - 35,00 €

And the Chariot got a new product code, though that may not necessarily mean it's getting a new model.

*New unit name may be different in English... perhaps the pie man can confirm for us?
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:52   #105
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Right, well it seems GW have changed the product code prefix for the whole Beastmen range (I had been wondering for a while now what these new prefix items were) which makes things slightly messier. There's no problem with the plastic kits:

Gors (Plastic Box) - £15.00 / US?? / 19,50 € / Oz$41.00
Ungors (Plastic Box) - £15.00 / US?? / 19,50 € / Oz$41.00
Bestigors (Plastic Box) - £25.00 / US?? / 32,50 € / Oz$69.00
Minotaurs (Plastic Box) - £27.00 / US?? / 35,00 € / Oz$74.00

But the metal box codes are a bit muddied by the multitude of new codes for existing metal products that aren't actually going to to be getting new kits. I have three metal products that are "new", I'm pretty certain the first two are Doombull and Grulgor respectively, and I get the feeling that the £35 box is just the existing Centigors. So I'll just leave these unassigned for the moment until I can get a confirmation on what is actually new and what has just been given a new product code:

(Metal Box) - £15.00 / US$25.00 / 22,50 € / Oz$44.00
(Metal Box) - £25.00 / US$41.25 / 32,50 € / Oz$69.00
(Metal Box) - £35.00 / US$57.75 / 50,00 € / Oz$96.00
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:26   #106
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Originally Posted by Scryer in the Darkness View Post
Well you should.

Provisional rundown on the upcoming releases for Beastmen - I'm a little pushed for time right now - will try and get specifics later...

Doombull (Metal Box) - TBD
Grulgor* (Metal Box) - TBD
Gors (Plastic Box) - TBD
Ungors (Plastic Box) - TBD
Bestigors (Plastic Box) - 32,50 €
Minotaurs (Plastic Box) - 35,00 €

And the Chariot got a new product code, though that may not necessarily mean it's getting a new model.

*New unit name may be different in English... perhaps the pie man can confirm for us?
Well so much for the Herdstones big birthday surprise.

What language is that in? What does Grul mean? (Or is spelled a bit like as is normally the cunning secret code.)
The name I heard for it in English was pretty lame. That actually sounds a bit better ... so it's possible someone else decided this and changed the name.

I think your other unassigned metal box may be a new unit.

I have to say I am slightly confused by your listings as it conflicts with what I have heard about the whole Gor/Ungor situation.
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:29   #107
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I think your other unassigned metal box is a new unit.
Yeah currently crunching all the products (old and new) for Beastmen, I'm thinking that. If we're getting some big Gorgon thingy, that could be it.

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I have to say I am slightly confused by your listings as it conflicts with what I have heard about the whole Gor/Ungor situation.
Yeah, it doesn't feel right to me either looking at the existing sprue and the new prices, but I have two £15 plastic box sets and Bram is usually good with his info. Will report back once I've finished grinding. EDIT - Or not.
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:54   #108
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What language is that in? What does Grul mean?

In german Greuel means Horror.
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May be the 2nd £15 box or unassigned metal box could be Gorgoyles? Thanks for the info.
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In german Greuel means Horror.
LOL, that is so cool! God I hope the English name isn't Spawngors.
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Horrorgor lulz.

Add water and they multiply.?
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:40   #112
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Horrorgor lulz.

Add water and they multiply.?
Should we paint them pink, and blue?



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I find it strange that there are no new Centigors. What's the point of splitting the boxes if the herds are still the same? I think we would be better off with plastic Centigors instead of a split box of gors.
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Will report back once I've finished grinding. EDIT - Or not.
Or maybe I will. Well all up I've got 5 "new" metal box codes and 10 "new" metal blister codes. Meh, all too hard for now, I'll wait for some confirmation... it's Saturday night and I'm going out. Ta!
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:58   #114
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Or maybe I will. Well all up I've got 5 "new" metal box codes and 10 "new" metal blister codes. Meh, all too hard for now, I'll wait for some confirmation... it's Saturday night and I'm going out. Ta!
If that's even half right I'll be impressed.


Okay let me guess:

Wargor with great weapon
Wargor with two hand weapons
Doombull
Centigor character
Brayshaman (two poses)
4 special characters

I think the new metal chariot might be Gorthor the Beastlord. *hopes*
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If we get a new Doom bull. I hope it comes with a lot of variants.Two heads, great weapon ,two hand weapons.
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Very nice info there thanks!

Also I think Grulgor is a Death Guard special character
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my entire future as a fantasy player depends entirely on how good those plastic minotaurs look.
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I am pretty sure that gors/ungors will still be a mixed unit. I think its just for easier access to the models you want. (Plus if they are 10 per box a 60% or so price increase.) I better get a few more herds before the books release I guess.

I hope the bestigor box contains 15 models or so because that would make the price okay for me. (Brings it in line with other armies elite unit costs)

The Mino's should have at least 3 models in their box because of their unit size so their price isn't too bad. (As long as they great mini's of course)

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Very nice info there thanks!

Also I think Grulgor is a Death Guard special character
Grulgor was a Death Guard captain in Flight of the Eisenstein. He has never had rules for 40K in any form.
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Separate boxes for Gors/Ungors surprises me a lot, although I'm not familiar with the current sprue layout. Are there currently separate sprues for the two? If so thats all good, but if not then that implies new models/recut sprues which I would not have guessed GW would do considering the decent quality of the current models.
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