WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour - Page 21

D-N-Angel · 18-11-2009, 22:39

We have killpoints in fantasy, there called victory points, we get victory points for killing things, claming quaters and extras. We get these because 40k players cant count in double or ever triple figures so everything is worth 1! Were as in fantasy they are worth the unit, +100 for standards and extras.

40K kill points in fantasy is a silly idea. if fantasy becomes more like 40k whats the point in calling it a diffrent game? they should stay sepreate. Whats next? not having to hit modifires for shooting?

Lord Solar Plexus · 19-11-2009, 15:05

Originally Posted by D-N-Angel

We have killpoints in fantasy, there called victory points, we get victory points for killing things, claming quaters and extras.

No, we do not have Kill Points in Fantasy, and they are not called by any other name. Saying that they are the same thing as VP's is nonsense. The latter mirror the value of a unit, the former do not care.

Hypaspist · 19-11-2009, 17:14

Originally Posted by D-N-Angel

...We get these because 40k players cant count in double or ever triple figures so everything is worth 1!

I think you will find it's the game designers, and not the players, who dictate the means by which you win a mission...

-Grimgorironhide- · 20-11-2009, 09:29

Not really 8th specific but something to do with next year.
Does anyone know when the druchii wave that is supposably cosisting of the new plastic Black dragon, dark riders and possibly COC will be happening? After news of it was posted months ago we haven heard anything of it since?

cheers.

Spiney Norman · 20-11-2009, 10:30

Originally Posted by static grass

Kill Points in WFB will equal banners. You get a point for every banner (yours or theirs) you hold at the end of the game.

Just a suggestion mind

Awesome, my wood elves will be unbeatable because the army has no banners... Mwhahahahaha

But seriously that would categorically be the worst way to score a game, there's no way they could make it work without making banners compulsory, and they can't do that without errata-ing all the existing army books extensively. Plus even if that was the case, I could easily make a competitive wood elf army comprised entirely of unit that cannot take banners.

Originally Posted by Lord Solar Plexus

No, they don't. Spending an inordinate amount of points on a single unit leaves you with less units compared to spreading your points. Deathstars are the best you can do in KP missions. Look up "Nob bikers" or "Seer Council" in the 40k section to see what I mean.

Oh yeah, Slann, 30 Temple Guard and Chakax ftw...

Quote Not at all. My last Empire list had 14, the opposing Lizards had 7. Of course I could let go of detachments to save KP's...

Wow, 7 units is a lot for lizards, I usually wind up with 5 or 6 ex characters...

Lord Solar Plexus · 20-11-2009, 12:50

Is it? Hmm. Come to think of it...

- 1 unit of cavalry
- 2 units of Skink skirmishers
- 1 unit of ranked skinks
- 1 block of Saurus
- 1 ancient stegadon

Six units in total. I probably counted the EotG as well but as it doesn't move alone...

Anardakil · 20-11-2009, 13:07

Leave kill points out for f*** sake >_< VP are fine. It's not exactly complicated math ;P

18-11-2009, 22:39	#401
D-N-Angel Brother Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In my castle of doom Posts: 55 iTrader: (0)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour We have killpoints in fantasy, there called victory points, we get victory points for killing things, claming quaters and extras. We get these because 40k players cant count in double or ever triple figures so everything is worth 1! Were as in fantasy they are worth the unit, +100 for standards and extras. 40K kill points in fantasy is a silly idea. if fantasy becomes more like 40k whats the point in calling it a diffrent game? they should stay sepreate. Whats next? not having to hit modifires for shooting?

19-11-2009, 15:05	#402
Lord Solar Plexus Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Essen, Ruhr Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (0)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Originally Posted by D-N-Angel We have killpoints in fantasy, there called victory points, we get victory points for killing things, claming quaters and extras. No, we do not have Kill Points in Fantasy, and they are not called by any other name. Saying that they are the same thing as VP's is nonsense. The latter mirror the value of a unit, the former do not care. __________________ Originally Posted by Griefbringer For every poster that manages to spell Tzeentch correctly, there are ten others posting about their brand new Slannesh-worshipping Emporers Children Choas army, complete with hoards of cultists, daemon calvary, looted sentinals and Lemon Russes, plus a corrupted rouge trader.

19-11-2009, 17:14	#403
Hypaspist Enigmatic Space Captain Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: On 'The Skull' Posts: 471 iTrader: (1)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Originally Posted by D-N-Angel ...We get these because 40k players cant count in double or ever triple figures so everything is worth 1! I think you will find it's the game designers, and not the players, who dictate the means by which you win a mission... __________________ "After I accepted she could kill me with a look, I found accepting i was wrong a much easier proposition....." - Excerpt from "The man who married a Ninja" When the time comes for the 'Cake or Death' Queue. ensure you are near the front.

20-11-2009, 09:29	#404
-Grimgorironhide- Commander Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 629 iTrader: (0)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Not really 8th specific but something to do with next year. Does anyone know when the druchii wave that is supposably cosisting of the new plastic Black dragon, dark riders and possibly COC will be happening? After news of it was posted months ago we haven heard anything of it since? cheers. __________________ A tainted being. To Black Souled to let live. A face of Shroud He Holds. Remaining unnoticed behind his Helm. His Armour, leaking of a dark ooze. Dripping cries of lost souls. (Part 1)

20-11-2009, 10:30	#405
Spiney Norman Librarian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Macu Peaks Posts: 300 iTrader: (0)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Originally Posted by static grass Kill Points in WFB will equal banners. You get a point for every banner (yours or theirs) you hold at the end of the game. Just a suggestion mind Awesome, my wood elves will be unbeatable because the army has no banners... Mwhahahahaha But seriously that would categorically be the worst way to score a game, there's no way they could make it work without making banners compulsory, and they can't do that without errata-ing all the existing army books extensively. Plus even if that was the case, I could easily make a competitive wood elf army comprised entirely of unit that cannot take banners. Originally Posted by Lord Solar Plexus No, they don't. Spending an inordinate amount of points on a single unit leaves you with less units compared to spreading your points. Deathstars are the best you can do in KP missions. Look up "Nob bikers" or "Seer Council" in the 40k section to see what I mean. Oh yeah, Slann, 30 Temple Guard and Chakax ftw... Quote Not at all. My last Empire list had 14, the opposing Lizards had 7. Of course I could let go of detachments to save KP's... Wow, 7 units is a lot for lizards, I usually wind up with 5 or 6 ex characters... Last edited by Spiney Norman; 20-11-2009 at 10:48.

20-11-2009, 12:50	#406
Lord Solar Plexus Chapter Master Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Essen, Ruhr Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (0)	WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Is it? Hmm. Come to think of it... - 1 unit of cavalry - 2 units of Skink skirmishers - 1 unit of ranked skinks - 1 block of Saurus - 1 ancient stegadon Six units in total. I probably counted the EotG as well but as it doesn't move alone... __________________ Originally Posted by Griefbringer For every poster that manages to spell Tzeentch correctly, there are ten others posting about their brand new Slannesh-worshipping Emporers Children Choas army, complete with hoards of cultists, daemon calvary, looted sentinals and Lemon Russes, plus a corrupted rouge trader.

20-11-2009, 13:07	#407
Anardakil Chapter Master Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	Re: WFB 8th Edition: whispers of a rumour Leave kill points out for f*** sake >_< VP are fine. It's not exactly complicated math ;P __________________ Don't fist my Rhino! My army painting logs: - Wood Elves, Averlanders and Christmas Goblins - The army of Lord Abaddon the despoiler

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