Third wave of Empire releases

silashand · 31-07-2008, 23:37

Haven't seen this online so I figured I'd post it here. If it's been seen already, feel free to lock/delete/whatever. Anyway, it's a pic of the 3-D render printout the design team had at GD Baltimore of the eventual plastic Steam Tank.

Enjoy...

Cheers, Gary

**Avian** · 12-08-2008, 14:32

Supposedly there is a third wave of Empire releases (the first came with the army book, the second with the plastic Flagellants and Helblaster/Helstorm) in june 2009.

The new models are currently looking to be:
- plastic Greatswords (box of 10)
- plastic Archers / Huntsmen (box of 10)
- plastic Steam Tank (box of, obviously, 1)
- metal Marius Leitdorf, the elector count of Averland
- At least two additional models. It is being speculated that these are the two empire character models shown in post #3 below, the Empire Captain with sword & shield and the Empire Captain with hammer & pistol.

There is also a new background book out, detailing the different Empire provinces, their uniforms, banners and suchlike.

Hopes that you could also make the War Altar from the Steam Tank kit, sustained because there is a Steam Tank in Warhammer Age of Reckoning with a big griffon statue on it, turned out to be incorrect.

Sylass · 16-09-2008, 20:22

Empire news from GD 08 in the UK:

Harry · 31-10-2008, 19:33

Originally Posted by Avian

Forgot about the Greatswords. Added to the list above.

Anyways, even at a conservative estimate, we are looking at five more plastic kits before you can say that the line is 100% plastic and even then you are lacking a handful of mounts. And of course the special characters, who it would be pretty pointless to cast in plastic.

I just can't see them putting out five new plastic kits in a year. Two, maybe three, might happen.

Special characters aside ... The Griffon, Pegasus and Robot horse are just mount options .... You could still take the character choice in plastic without these mount options ....

.... So all you would need IS three kits.

1) Steam tank with Master Engineer on the sprue.
2) War Alter with Warrior Priest/Arch Lector on the sprue.
3) Greatswords

It's doable.

Harry · 22-11-2008, 20:58

Missed this.

Originally Posted by bomblu

So Harry 'hints' Greatswords...maybe a silly question but will they be simply remade into plastic (like they did with the Black Orcs) or will they be re-sculpted to fit in the style GW are tourning to?

Originally Posted by bomblu

I bought an empire army book today and i too liked the knight artwork. Whereas it wont be too difficult to convert the current ones into that style (given enogh skulls and a good mastery in plastic card modelling) i believe they will sometime be released as models before 8th eddition.

And a qustion to Harry pls (to combine with my pervious one concerning the Greatswords.) If they will be new sculpts, will they look anything like the concept art on pg43 of the Empire army book? - prays

Originally Posted by bomblu

Conisdering the fact that units seem to come in boxes of 10 soldiers i wont think it would be a problem for GW to make them individualistic models...infact i think they'll be like that

With some greenstuff and part-exchange you'll get a unit of 20 unique Greatswords

Not just remade. New sculpts. Yes, sculpted to fit the new look of the Empire models but more than this sculpted with interchange between kits in mind. These were sculpted by Mike Anderson who was one of the guys involved in the those kits and the guy who has been sculpting those great Empire citizens. So we are in for a treat.

I don't have the Empire book in front of me but if Page 43 is a bit of Gallagher artwork of a Greatsword then you can be pretty sure these will have something of that about them.

Expect individualistic models. Any individual plastic Greatsword would look great as a Captain or a Champion for a unit of the existing state troops.
I can't wait for more bits to mix and match and create new individuals.

Hints. I know it's hard to imagine bigger plumes than those on the state troops but ... The only things bigger than the greatswords are the plumes.

**Avian** · 15-02-2009, 17:58

Plastic Steam Tank, picture from the GW mailing list. Thanks to DragonPup

As you can see, it appears to be scaled down a bit compared to the current version, to make it able to fit (more or less) on a chariot base.

Note that the back wheels are spoked and the bling-bling attached to them is removable.

Originally Posted by Harry

Designed by Colin Grayson.
Lots of nice interior detail. (on the floor piece)
Two Cannon options. one pictured here and hexagonal one.
Two chimney tops.
Two wheel trims options
Three heads for the engineer
Lots of 'Empire stowage'.

Very cool kit from Mr Grayson IMO
Brief was there being nothing wrong with the metal one ... make it in plastic.

**Avian** · 16-02-2009, 07:36

And a new Marius Leitdorf, the elector count of Averland. Pic taken by Eldorad

Kaine · 17-02-2009, 13:28

Havent seen this pic posted (shows the new great swords on the left)

Attachment 52778

**Avian** · 06-03-2009, 18:59

Originally Posted by 75hastings69

There are at least 2 metal direct only models for Empire (not including Marius).

It is being speculated that the two mentioned are the two empire character models shown in post #3 above, the Empire Captain with sword & shield and the Empire Captain with hammer & pistol.

Scryer in the Darkness · 14-03-2009, 14:25

These ones? (God I hope they haven't already been posted... I'd hate to be one of "those guys"

)

Pics care of Syph at Heresy Online. Archers and Greatswords from April WD.

EDIT - Added text box too.

Siam-Tiger · 04-04-2009, 16:48

New Pictures of the empire plastics from the RPC 09 in Germany / Cologne.

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=3944

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_stank01.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_stank02.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_hunter1.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...eatsword02.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...eatsword01.jpg

Scryer in the Darkness · 21-04-2009, 00:13

Okay, some more from Games Day France care of citadela.org.

Decent shots of both Empire Captains in bare metal (note hammer not axe on the first one... just like the green) and the Archers sprue!! Izzat a dead Orc?! Sweet!

Also Steam Tank sprues for the hell of it (have we seen them in their entirety yet?) and a few not-so-great photos of painted sword-carrying Captain, Greatswords and Archers.

jullevi · 21-04-2009, 11:39

Thanks to greenstuff at CMON, we have a good shot of Greatsword sprue and best shot of Huntsmen sprue so far.

Greatswords sprue:
http://greenstuff.free.fr/album/GD/F...009%20114.html

Huntsmen sprue:
http://greenstuff.free.fr/album/GD/F...009%20113.html

Scryer in the Darkness · 21-04-2009, 11:56

Yeah, it seems people haven't been able to get any great shots of the sprues in that cabinet yet. Which is a shame, I've been waiting to see the IG Command Squad sprues for ages.

This is a reasonably nice shot of the Captain with sword though.

**Avian** · 24-04-2009, 10:05

The models are now up for pre-order and the prices are as follows:

Steam Tank: £35
Greatswords: £25 for 10*
Archers: £15 for 10

* same price as the current metal ones

**Avian** · 12-05-2009, 16:47

Some more pics. Thanks to Scryer in the Darkness for bringing these to my attention.

The Greatswords and Archers are taken from Stuck Between Stations' blog and the wounded Orc from the Archers set is taken from WarSeer member nix's blog.

Siam-Tiger · 22-05-2009, 17:33

In addition, steam tank sprue pictures (perhaps move to empire third wave summary?):

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=4795

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue1.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue2.jpg

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue3.jpg

Siam-Tiger · 24-05-2009, 22:52

Fresh from the Brückenkopf, the greatsword sprues

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=4820

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue1.jpg
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue2.jpg
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue3.jpg

31-07-2008, 23:37	#1
silashand Commander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 885 iTrader: (0)	Third wave of Empire releases Haven't seen this online so I figured I'd post it here. If it's been seen already, feel free to lock/delete/whatever. Anyway, it's a pic of the 3-D render printout the design team had at GD Baltimore of the eventual plastic Steam Tank. Enjoy... Cheers, Gary Attached Thumbnails __________________ Direwolf FAQ Council - Dark Elf Representative Admin - Bugman's Brewery "Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do." - Voltaire "Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone." - Unknown

12-08-2008, 14:32	#2
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Third wave of Empire releases Supposedly there is a third wave of Empire releases (the first came with the army book, the second with the plastic Flagellants and Helblaster/Helstorm) in june 2009. The new models are currently looking to be: - plastic Greatswords (box of 10) - plastic Archers / Huntsmen (box of 10) - plastic Steam Tank (box of, obviously, 1) - metal Marius Leitdorf, the elector count of Averland - At least two additional models. It is being speculated that these are the two empire character models shown in post #3 below, the Empire Captain with sword & shield and the Empire Captain with hammer & pistol. There is also a new background book out, detailing the different Empire provinces, their uniforms, banners and suchlike. Hopes that you could also make the War Altar from the Steam Tank kit, sustained because there is a Steam Tank in Warhammer Age of Reckoning with a big griffon statue on it, turned out to be incorrect. __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary Last edited by Avian; 06-03-2009 at 19:00.

31-10-2008, 19:33	#4
Harry Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,665 iTrader: (33)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic Originally Posted by Avian Forgot about the Greatswords. Added to the list above. Anyways, even at a conservative estimate, we are looking at five more plastic kits before you can say that the line is 100% plastic and even then you are lacking a handful of mounts. And of course the special characters, who it would be pretty pointless to cast in plastic. I just can't see them putting out five new plastic kits in a year. Two, maybe three, might happen. Special characters aside ... The Griffon, Pegasus and Robot horse are just mount options .... You could still take the character choice in plastic without these mount options .... .... So all you would need IS three kits. 1) Steam tank with Master Engineer on the sprue. 2) War Alter with Warrior Priest/Arch Lector on the sprue. 3) Greatswords It's doable. __________________ Please visit my project log herehttp://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87490 Please visit 'The Tale of Painters' in the Warseer modelling and Painting support group forum.

22-11-2008, 20:58	#5
Harry Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,665 iTrader: (33)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic Missed this. Originally Posted by bomblu So Harry 'hints' Greatswords...maybe a silly question but will they be simply remade into plastic (like they did with the Black Orcs) or will they be re-sculpted to fit in the style GW are tourning to? Originally Posted by bomblu I bought an empire army book today and i too liked the knight artwork. Whereas it wont be too difficult to convert the current ones into that style (given enogh skulls and a good mastery in plastic card modelling) i believe they will sometime be released as models before 8th eddition. And a qustion to Harry pls (to combine with my pervious one concerning the Greatswords.) If they will be new sculpts, will they look anything like the concept art on pg43 of the Empire army book? - prays Originally Posted by bomblu Conisdering the fact that units seem to come in boxes of 10 soldiers i wont think it would be a problem for GW to make them individualistic models...infact i think they'll be like that With some greenstuff and part-exchange you'll get a unit of 20 unique Greatswords Not just remade. New sculpts. Yes, sculpted to fit the new look of the Empire models but more than this sculpted with interchange between kits in mind. These were sculpted by Mike Anderson who was one of the guys involved in the those kits and the guy who has been sculpting those great Empire citizens. So we are in for a treat. I don't have the Empire book in front of me but if Page 43 is a bit of Gallagher artwork of a Greatsword then you can be pretty sure these will have something of that about them. Expect individualistic models. Any individual plastic Greatsword would look great as a Captain or a Champion for a unit of the existing state troops. I can't wait for more bits to mix and match and create new individuals. Hints. I know it's hard to imagine bigger plumes than those on the state troops but ... The only things bigger than the greatswords are the plumes. __________________ Please visit my project log herehttp://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87490 Please visit 'The Tale of Painters' in the Warseer modelling and Painting support group forum.

15-02-2009, 17:58	#6
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases Plastic Steam Tank, picture from the GW mailing list. Thanks to DragonPup As you can see, it appears to be scaled down a bit compared to the current version, to make it able to fit (more or less) on a chariot base. Note that the back wheels are spoked and the bling-bling attached to them is removable. Originally Posted by Harry Designed by Colin Grayson. Lots of nice interior detail. (on the floor piece) Two Cannon options. one pictured here and hexagonal one. Two chimney tops. Two wheel trims options Three heads for the engineer Lots of 'Empire stowage'. Very cool kit from Mr Grayson IMO Brief was there being nothing wrong with the metal one ... make it in plastic. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary Last edited by Avian; 17-02-2009 at 14:48.

16-09-2008, 20:22	#3
Sylass novice user Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essen, Germany Posts: 4,597 iTrader: (22)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases Empire news from GD 08 in the UK: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Avian; 14-03-2009 at 15:33.

16-02-2009, 07:36	#7
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases And a new Marius Leitdorf, the elector count of Averland. Pic taken by Eldorad Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary

17-02-2009, 13:28	#8
Kaine Veteran Sergeant Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 92 iTrader: (0)	Re: Plastic Steam Tank and more at Open Day. Havent seen this pic posted (shows the new great swords on the left) Attachment 52778 Attached Thumbnails

06-03-2009, 18:59	#9
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases Originally Posted by 75hastings69 There are at least 2 metal direct only models for Empire (not including Marius). It is being speculated that the two mentioned are the two empire character models shown in post #3 above, the Empire Captain with sword & shield and the Empire Captain with hammer & pistol. __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary

14-03-2009, 14:25	#10
Scryer in the Darkness Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,253 iTrader: (0)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic These ones? (God I hope they haven't already been posted... I'd hate to be one of "those guys" ) Pics care of Syph at Heresy Online. Archers and Greatswords from April WD. EDIT - Added text box too. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Who knows what eldritch horrors lurk in the darkness that lies beyond the wall of sleep... Originally Posted by Harry It is not much fun to see folks here upset and 'up in arms' about stuff I know is wrong. ^QFT.

04-04-2009, 16:48	#11
Siam-Tiger Commander Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coblenz, GER Posts: 517 iTrader: (0)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic New Pictures of the empire plastics from the RPC 09 in Germany / Cologne. http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=3944 http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_stank01.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_stank02.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...gw_hunter1.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...eatsword02.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...eatsword01.jpg __________________ Brueckenkopf Online.com - unabhängiges Tabletop Portal SiamTigers Log-o-rama @ WarSeer chaosbunker.de - tin, plastic and not enough time

21-04-2009, 00:13	#12
Scryer in the Darkness Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,253 iTrader: (0)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic Okay, some more from Games Day France care of citadela.org. Decent shots of both Empire Captains in bare metal (note hammer not axe on the first one... just like the green) and the Archers sprue!! Izzat a dead Orc?! Sweet! Also Steam Tank sprues for the hell of it (have we seen them in their entirety yet?) and a few not-so-great photos of painted sword-carrying Captain, Greatswords and Archers. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Who knows what eldritch horrors lurk in the darkness that lies beyond the wall of sleep... Originally Posted by Harry It is not much fun to see folks here upset and 'up in arms' about stuff I know is wrong. ^QFT.

21-04-2009, 11:39	#13
jullevi Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 708 iTrader: (0)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic Thanks to greenstuff at CMON, we have a good shot of Greatsword sprue and best shot of Huntsmen sprue so far. Greatswords sprue: http://greenstuff.free.fr/album/GD/F...009%20114.html Huntsmen sprue: http://greenstuff.free.fr/album/GD/F...009%20113.html __________________ Gloriam Imperator, The Firstborn Stand!

21-04-2009, 11:56	#14
Scryer in the Darkness Chapter Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,253 iTrader: (0)	Re: Empire 100% Plastic Yeah, it seems people haven't been able to get any great shots of the sprues in that cabinet yet. Which is a shame, I've been waiting to see the IG Command Squad sprues for ages. This is a reasonably nice shot of the Captain with sword though. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Who knows what eldritch horrors lurk in the darkness that lies beyond the wall of sleep... Originally Posted by Harry It is not much fun to see folks here upset and 'up in arms' about stuff I know is wrong. ^QFT.

24-04-2009, 10:05	#15
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases The models are now up for pre-order and the prices are as follows: Steam Tank: £35 Greatswords: £25 for 10* Archers: £15 for 10 * same price as the current metal ones __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary

12-05-2009, 16:47	#16
Avian Solitaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Porsgrunn, Norway Posts: 6,368 iTrader: (0)	Re: Third wave of Empire releases Some more pics. Thanks to Scryer in the Darkness for bringing these to my attention. The Greatswords and Archers are taken from Stuck Between Stations' blog and the wounded Orc from the Archers set is taken from WarSeer member nix's blog. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rumour Roundup - FB Army book release schedule Unit Combat Calculator Orcs & Goblins Tactics page - Ogre Kingdoms Tactics page Painting diary

22-05-2009, 17:33	#17
Siam-Tiger Commander Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coblenz, GER Posts: 517 iTrader: (0)	Re: New Empire Battalion including greatswords In addition, steam tank sprue pictures (perhaps move to empire third wave summary?): http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=4795 http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue1.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue2.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evstsprue3.jpg __________________ Brueckenkopf Online.com - unabhängiges Tabletop Portal SiamTigers Log-o-rama @ WarSeer chaosbunker.de - tin, plastic and not enough time

24-05-2009, 22:52	#18
Siam-Tiger Commander Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coblenz, GER Posts: 517 iTrader: (0)	Re: New Empire Battalion including greatswords Fresh from the Brückenkopf, the greatsword sprues http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=4820 http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue1.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue2.jpg http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/w...evgssprue3.jpg __________________ Brueckenkopf Online.com - unabhängiges Tabletop Portal SiamTigers Log-o-rama @ WarSeer chaosbunker.de - tin, plastic and not enough time

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